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Mark Haslett
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MORE STORY
4 to 6 more images? Another suspenseful turning point? Plus, if we get to keep the DPS image in the story as 1/2 page, there's room for ONE AND A HALF additional pages?
I love these double page spreads, but I generally have to consider them more as story-crutches than worthy storytelling choices.
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David Plunkert
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If there's one thing that minimizes the impact of a big picture and delivers less story its having every page be a splash or dps.
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Larry Lawrence
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I'm for more story! The best use I can think of for the spread is to use it to introduce a new complex element and establish its importance or scale- say something on the order of the SHIELD helicarrier. Otherwise, a climactic scene an epic battle in a team book is another top use for it.
My rule for when not to use it is simply to sneak a pin-up into the middle of a book.
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John Byrne
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The best use I can think of for the spread is to use it to introduce a new complex element and establish its importance or scale- say something on the order of the SHIELD helicarrier.•• Which, by the way, was introduced with a full page splash, not a DPS!
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Robbie Moubert
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I'm sure if JB hadn't gone with the DPS in that X-Men issue he would have drawn something different, in which case I doubt we'd be sitting here today saying, "You know what would have made this issue more fun.....?"
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Brian Lewis
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"So which is "more fun"? Big pictures, or MORE STORY?"
I like the combination. The big pictures bring a bit of grandeur to a story. Sure I could get more story, but sometimes its not necessary. I read comics to be wowed, and a DPS is just another way to accomplish that. As a ready, it can be a great treat.
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Nathan Greno
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Brian: I like the combination. The big pictures bring a bit of grandeur to a story. Sure I could get more story, but sometimes its not necessary. I read comics to be wowed, and a DPS is just another way to accomplish that. As a ready, it can be a great treat.
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I agree. I don't always need MORE story. I just want a FUN story to read.
X-Men #115 is FUN to read AS IS. It doesn't need MORE story, imho.
Edited by Nathan Greno on 24 October 2012 at 2:16pm
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Flavio Sapha
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In (not-so) recent years, I´ve come to really admire the storytelling talents of Mike Baron and Steve Rude displayed in the NEXUS series.
In the last couple of mini-series they did, the stories were always self-contained in one issue, with sub-plots leading up to a "big bad" confrontation, to borrow from Joss Whedon.
I can´t recall Rude ever doing a DPS and his art is, nevertheless, spectacular.
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Brian Lewis
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I don't think anyone is trying to suggest that any comic must have a DPS in order to be fun. I think Rude is an outstanding artist. But I think it is unfair to say that any DPS is a waste outside of the context of the story it was printed in.
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Paul Greer
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Who could forget this image? 
It is only one half of a page. It is more well known than 99% of any DPS. Is it any less fun or impactful?
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Brennan Voboril
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Flavio I think you're right! I can't think of a single DPS Rude ever did. He's great. Really seems underrated today too.
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Pete York
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Paul Greer wrote:
| ...It is only one half of a page. It is more well known than 99% of any DPS. Is it any less fun or impactful? |
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No. But there's no reason for a medium shot of a character to be a double-page spread. Whereas...
...would be less fun and impactful if reduced.
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