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James Elliott
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I just read an excerpt from "Marvel Comics, The Untold Story" at
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8433000/view/full/an-exc erpt-sean-howe-marvel-comics-untold-story
Has anyone read the whole book? Is it worth reading?
P.S. Sorry if this is a repeat topic, a brief search of the words in the title turned up nothing.
Edited by James Elliott on 04 October 2012 at 1:25pm
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Matt Hawes
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The book is just coming out next week, as I understand it. At least, that's when I get my order in at my shop. I plan on reading it. Edited to correct typo.
Edited by Matt Hawes on 04 October 2012 at 2:01pm
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James Elliott
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Thanks for the information Matt. The excerpt was interesting enough that I think I'll pick up a copy of the book.
I wasn't reading much Marvel back then and was a little too young, but the "untold" story that's told reminds me of that time.
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John Leach
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I had planned on reading it, but that excerpt really turned me off. "Ooooo, look how racist and sexist Marvel was back in the 70's!". And then he tries to turn some of the dreck that was produced in that era into high art. Bleh.
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Stephen Churay
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And then he tries to turn some of the dreck that was produced in that
era into high art. Bleh.
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John, I didn't read the excerpt. Was that about 70's Marvel Comics or
today's?
If you want a really good read about what the heck was going on with
Marvel in the 90's, check out COMIC BOOK WARS. That was a very
interesting read.
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John Leach
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Stephen, it was 70's Marvel.
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Mike Norris
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The 70s were my "golden age" for comics,especially Marvel Comics, so I found the excerpt interesting.
You have to admit, Marvel and DC were a bit behind the curve in the area of women's rights. Though they did a little better when it came to black characters. I suppose Luke Cage might be looked at as a step back after Black Panther and the Falcon.
Not sure which of the books mentioned were the "dreck". Most of them seem to be pretty fondly remembered. I know that Captain America, the Defenders, the Avengers and Howard the Duck are among my favorites. .
Edited by Mike Norris on 04 October 2012 at 9:12pm
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Robert Bradley
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I cut my teeth reading 1970's Marvel comics, so I'll be picking this up too.
I was a big fan of Englehart and Starlin as a kid, although a lot of what was going on was certainly getting past me.
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John Byrne
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When I started at Marvel, we were in the middle of the Seventies, and most of us who had been reading for a longish while considered that period something of a Dark Age. We were starting to see the blatant tie-ins to current fads, for instance (monsters, kung fu, etc), and the art in many of the books was very much sub-par.As years went by, I was surprised to see more and more people coming in who had "cut their teeth" on Marvel of the Seventies, and thought that stuff was GREAT. It underscored for me that what was really great was those CHARACTERS. Spider-Man, the FF, Iron Man, Thor… they were so good in concept that they could survive just about anything dumped on them. Just about.
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I've read the exceprt and I'm intrigued. I've often said that 70's Marvel is a bright spot for me because my older brother was buying alot of great stuff and when I discovered his comics near the end of the decade (even though I couldn't read yet) THOSE were the comics that hooked me.
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Between the lengthy excerpt linked above and the first chapter or so available as a sample (which were about the early Timely days) in iBooks, it feels like I've read a chunk of the book already, although I'm still interested in picking up a copy. It's kind of like Easy Riders, Raging Bulls but about comics.
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The 70s were my prime reading years, mostly Marvel. Looking back the early and late 70s were pretty good but the middle was a muddle of mediocrity. You'd never have convinced me when I was 10 years old, though!
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