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Mikael Bergkvist
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IRC, during his run on Batman, Brian Azzerella revealed that a 10 year old Bruce Wayne was partly responsible for his parents deaths
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That's a wonderful view of the world, right there. Blame the kid. Next, we could blame women for being raped, due to dressing themselves too sexy.
Oh, wait.. DC already covered that part. Sorry.
Edited by Mikael Bergkvist on 05 October 2012 at 5:20am
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Mike Norris
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Not sure its an example of "blame the kid" but of survivors guilt. The "if onlies" that plague someone who has gone through a traumatic experience. A touch of Spider-Man if you will.
Edited by Mike Norris on 05 October 2012 at 8:54am
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Neil Brauer
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Regarding a non-spoiler detail from the spoiler above... so The Question is one of the three "ultimate sinners" of all time? Man, is there any character in the history of comics who has been distorted further from his creator's original conception than the Question? Everything that's been done with him since DC acquired the character has been one big giant f*** you to Ditko.
.................................. AMEN! I won't buy anything Denny O'Neil is associated with because of this. Ditko craps more talent.
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Bob Simko
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Didn't he purposely do that to the character because he didn't agree with Objectivism? That's classy.
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John Byrne
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The Question wasn't terribly Objectivist.Mr A, on the other hand. . . !!
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Andrew Bitner
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it might be the bias of when i "met" the character but i really enjoyed denny o'neil's version of The Question. a character who *does* ask questions and search for the truth is more interesting to me than a character whose philosophy's truths are all established and unquestionable.
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Bob Simko
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The Question referred to the question of "how is a man to be judged"...the blank face was intended to symbolize Lady Justice's blindfold.
The whole asking questions/conspiracy thing was someone really missing the point.
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Jason Czeskleba
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Andrew Bitner wrote:
| a character who *does* ask questions and search for the truth is more interesting to me than a character whose philosophy's truths are all established and unquestionable |
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Fair enough. But then my question for Denny O'Neil would be "why not create your own original character to explore those ideas, rather than altering an established character beyond recognition?" It's sort of like someone saying "I like sword and sorcery stories better than detective stories" and proceeding to transport Batman into the past and turn him into a barbarian adventurer.
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Ronald Joseph
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and proceeding to transport Batman into the past and turn him into a barbarian adventurer.
Yeah, like that would ever happen!
What next? Make it so that those stories all fit into a single continuity?
Ha!
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David Plunkert
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I love the character design of the Question and Mr. A features all around fantastic b+w art by Ditko.
I think Ditko's objectivist comics are interesting and though I can't say I find them particularly entertaining I can see how they could be viewed as important examples of a comic artist presenting a unique pov or manifesto.
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Emery Calame
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So, did the Phantom Stranger turn out to be a secret manhunter during the Millenium mini-series? :)
Edited by Emery Calame on 05 October 2012 at 12:05pm
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Andrew Bitner
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well, like i said, this is more about when and how i first encountered the character. YMMV. as for "why not create your own character"-- the charlton characters were there to be used. i doubt the changes made were o'neil's decision alone, but again, readers are perfectly within their rights to vote with their dollars. the o'neil series lasted for awhile, then it was canceled. would a more true-to-ditko version have lasted as long or longer? don't know. but i can tell you that ditko's version was much less interesting to me and i would not have read that book. a guy running around letting criminals die and espousing a philosophy i find deeply lacking is not entertainment to me.
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