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Tim O Neill
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Knee pads?
Really?
If Marvel doesn't want to appear to be sucking Hollywood's cock, they may want to leave the knee pads off one of their signature designs.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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| Posted: 27 July 2012 at 11:51pm | IP Logged | 2
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Great costume.
For an alternate reality or a Cap/G.I.Joe crossover.
Seriously, how many hours would an artist need to draw that? And don't it seem heavy? When Daredevil started wearing an armor I wondered how he could jump. Now, I'm as doubtful as then.
Aw, well, I dropped Captain America with the end of the previous series and briefly came back to see what Alan Davis was doing (ditto for Thor; man, that Davis guy still compels me in buying titles I have dropped). Glad I had one last chance to see him illustrated in the proper way!
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Glenn Brown
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Timmah, it's too late. Marvel is owned by Disney now...in more ways than one. Publishing is just another arm of The Mouse now. They ARE part of Hollywood now. I don't know that appearances to the contrary matter much now...
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Rob Ocelot
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Isn't the point of Captain America to be a living anachronism?
By all rights Cap should be one of the only characters still sporting his original (or close to it) design.
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Fritz Short
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MARVEL as Disney I think will mean "...If the Mouse gets his ears,the Cap gets his wings...".Someone must have seen the potential,Mickey has a history.
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Kip Lewis
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Here is the thing; Americans always like the newer version. It is the
reason everything gets redesigned; sometimes to the point of being
unrecognizable.
I suspect there are two reasons for it; one corporate, one personal.
Buisnesses constantly update their product design, logos, etc, because
Americans love new and improved. It sells better. If the competition
does it; the public starts paying attention to them. So, they have to
play the "new" game too, because really name recognition is not as
valuable as "new". Why do you think cars are constantly being
redesigned to the point they lose their trademark look? Take Jaguar.
New is more valuable than recognition. Look at the music/movie
industry. No matter how often people gripe, the old stuff is better,
they keep producing new stuff of different styles. Even remakes fall
into this philiosphy, new is better.
Second, the personal reason. People are paid to keep their company
in the the forefront of the public's eye. Creative new ideas justify their
salary. New image, new logo, new costume that jumps sales for a
month or two, justifies keeping them on. If everyone just reproduces
the same basic thing, then you are replaceable. This is where
personal motive can run counter to corporate interests.
There is a third reason; when sales are shrinking, you always change
the product. Why? Because Americans are always attracted to "new
and improved". I know we can argue that the sales are slipping
because of this philosophy, but you'll never convince Americans to
buy the product marketing them as "COMICS THE WAY YOUR
GRANDPARENTS LIKED THEM".
Americans always want the newest thing. It is the reason, we will
never see movies made the way they used to be, tv will never be the
way it used to be, music will never be the way it used to be.
And griping about it might relieve fustration, but it is about as useful
as worry.
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John Byrne
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Isn't the point of Captain America to be a living anachronism? •• I wouldn't phrase it like that. To borrow a line from TOP GEAR, Cap's function is to "remind us of a time when we really were as great as we still think we are." But he isn't Marvel's version of the Beverly Hillbillies, never figuring out what a doorbell is.
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Richard White
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"But he isn't Marvel's version of the Beverly Hillbillies, never figuring out what a doorbell is."
I could see that being a 12 issue arc now.
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John Byrne
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Well, they DID give us a character berating Cap because he wasn't hip to all the ins and outs of the internet. Like CAPTAIN AMERICA, who has fought giant Nazi robots, aliens, interdimensional beings, and who has hung out with gods, wizards, time travelers and just about anything else you can imagine, would be baffled by Twitter.I'm sure he DOESN'T have a page on Facebook, and probably shakes his head at those who do, but he knows what it is, and he knows how to use it. Along with every other mod con (as we used to say in England)*. ––––– * Modern convenience
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Richard White
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It's not like Cap is from ancient times. He comes from a time that had much of what we do now but perhaps in a rougher form. He's also a young intelligent guy, pretty sure he would be adaptable.
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John Byrne
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One of the odder things about Cap's return was that right from the start he was written as an OLDER man. Stan would have him calling people "son" and generally expressing himself as if he was pushing 40. Yet if we did the math, he was likely not much over 25 when he went into the ice. Certainly he was short of 30.It all sprang, no doubt, from Stan's wish to give the character the proper degree of gravitas, but even as a kid I sometimes wondered why Cap talked like he was an OLD GUY. This scene was particularly odd, given that for Cap there should have been no noticeable "break" between the time he fell into the ocean and the time the Avengers pulled him out. 
Stan was never one to waste time getting to his point, tho! Bottom line, anybody who can fly a quinjet and work the computers at Avengers Mansion should have NO trouble with the internet!
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John Byrne
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And, just for the heck of it. . . .
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