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Michael Roberts
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My prediction for ASM #700's milestone event is the return of Gwen
Stacy.  Her profile's been raised thanks to the new movie, only Uncle
Ben seems to be completely off-limits, and since magic and other
wackiness has already reared its head in Spidey's personal life, why
not go the extra mile and do a major reset? 

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You can reference both the CLONE SAGA and SINS PAST by
revealing that Gwen is alive and that Norman Osborn slept with one of
Miles Warren's Gwen clones! *shudder*
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Andrew W. Farago
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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 2  

Easy as pie!  And the Peter Parker that the Gwen clone cheated on was really "The Other."  Toss in Ezekiel and the Spider-Totem for good measure.
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Definitely a drop-off there.

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More of a lateral move. Solid inks, just not really spider-inks.

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Hey, at least it isn't canon, right? If it is, then SPIDEY SUPER STORIES must be, too!

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When Chris and I were doing MARVEL TEAM-UP we discussed "retelling" the Storm appearance that had recently been in SPIDEY, showing what "really happened".

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But, hey! Nice cover!

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Strange art instruction on that cover. I was told that Spider-Man was to be swinging over the city, carrying the kid, BUT THEIR BODIES MUST NOT BE TOUCHING!

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Terry Thielen
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I remember when my parents gave me this comic and for a long time it was the only Spider-man comic I owned!
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Someone at Marvel enjoys Norman Osborn cuckolding Peter Parker.

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That particular phrasing creeps me out on levels I didn't know I had.

Did anyone, in their wildest dreams, ever image such a development back in the 60s or 70s?

Osborn cuckolding Parker.

 

Harry Osborn, maybe. But Norman? Guuuuhhh.

 

Speaking of Controversial Cuckolding Comics, there's also the bit in the Wolfman run which subtly indicates that Peter was banging Betty Brant-Leeds after she ran away from Ned in Europe. During their honeymoon.

But at least that was subtle, and still somewhat open to interpretation.

Unlike Osborn's "O-face".

 

Spider-Man having an affair with a married woman is not exactly an idea that thrills me, either. Peter--the Peter I know, at least--would certainly spend many tortured thought balloons grappling with that sort of thing.

Despite his prior history with Betty, I can't see someone raised with such strong morals, and who is as neurotic and worry-prone as Parker, entering into an affair like that. A sexual affair, in particular.



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Marc M. Woolman
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A little off topic, but the best inker I ever saw for Sal Buscema's pencils was JB. (i.m.o.)

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If you're interested in seeing how the Clone Saga ran off the rails and you have a lot of spare reading time, you can check this out:

http://lifeofreillyarchives.blogspot.com/

Its been a couple of years since I read thru it, but it was rather informative.

I'm up to Part 23 right now.  

Once I started reading it I couldn't stop.  It's quite a tale and has proven - so far - to be better reading than the entire Clone Saga itself!


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Reading through the LIFE OF REILLY always proves a both fascinating and frustrating experience for me (I glance at the posts from time to time), with a touch of nostalgia thrown in for good measure, or bad, depending on how you look at it.

Fascinating due to all the behind-the-scenes planning/turmoil that went down through the entire thing, how a story meant to restore Spider-Man to his roots went horribly wrong and what it took to get things (sort of) back on track.

Frustrating because as a result of the story, it spun things with my favorite character completely out of control, to a point where he never really recovered.

The small bit of nostalgia comes from the fact that in spite of it all, this was still my heyday of reading comics as a youngster, and looking back through all those story arcs really takes me back in time...to a time where I really found myself enjoying new Spider-Man comics.

Of course back then, I had less sense of the history of the character. As a result, I had no idea that the stories I was reading, however entertaining they might be, were not Spider-Man stories. Not only that, but I had no idea how long-lasting the ramifications of those stories would be!

JB once spoke in an interview with Wizard (#47) about new comic creators and I quote, "They have no sense of history. Everything that's wrong with the world, and everything that's wrong with the industry, can be distilled down to having no sense of history."

And thanks to those creators having no sense of history, Spider-Man is even further from his roots than ever before.

I'm just glad I was able to wise up, do some research, and learn the truth. Learn about the real Spider-Man, whose adventures I can still get into by cracking open one of the classics.


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I remember when I first saw the Life of Reilly blog and, while it did take me a few days to read thru it all, it was rather engrossing. It was like watching a car wreck in slow motion; of course, I say this with knowledge of everything that came afterwards.

I think its definitely the big turning point in Spider-Man's history. I was a big fan of Spidey, but bailed during the early days of the Clone Saga and I've never gone back. It saddens me, because of my love for the character, but I'm happy I missed the Norman Osborn banging Gwen Stacy claptrap.

How I miss Spider-Man...

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How I miss Spider-Man...

If I substitute "Marvel" where you wrote "Spider-Man," I find that we're on the same page.


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