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Mark Haslett
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These stories where Superheroes cross taboo-lines always make me think about kids pulling the clothes off Barbie dolls to see her "naked".
Wee! Look what I made Spider-Man do!
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Greg Kirkman
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This little story comes to mind, although it was at least done as a (hopefully!) non-canon PSA giveaway: 
Edited by Greg Kirkman on 09 August 2012 at 1:34pm
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 09 August 2012 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | 3
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How did JMS resist the temptation to work Skip into his arcs? He cannot have known this exists.
He must not be allowed to know! Kirkman, take down your post!
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Brian Miller
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That's real?!? How has Bendis not used Skip yet? And why does Skip have gray hair?
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Michael Todd
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That isn't really a Spider-Man comic is it? Just a Peter Parker look-a-like right?
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Stephen Robinson
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I use a version of my SUPERMAN IV analogy for the clone saga. It's
terrible but it's still a superhero comic book. There was a period in the
past ten years when Marvel stopped publishing superhero comic
books.
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Andrew W. Farago
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As a comic that educates kids about sexual abuse, it makes sense to have young Peter Parker as a victim. Kids who have gone through abuse will see that you can move past it and do great things in your life, and a high-profile character experiencing something like that is going to resonate more with kids than some anonymous victim. For its intended purpose and audience, I think it was the right way to go.
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John Byrne
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As a comic that educates kids about sexual abuse, it makes sense to have young Peter Parker as a victim.•• Why? Why not a friend? If it was an anti-drug message, would it "make sense" for Peter to be a meth-head? If it was about tolerance of homosexuals, should Peter come out? I did the cover for that particular book, and only later did I find out it was Peter who was the victim. I thought it was unnecessarily sensationalistic. Peter has enough crap in his life --- Uncle's death was his fault, remember? He doesn't need more, even in a good cause.
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John Byrne
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Things that make me crazy, Part 2937:Look at this cover: 
An acre of space an inch or so below Spider-Man's balloon on the left, but they paste it up to cover his FOOT in the corner symbol!!
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John Byrne
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…a contender for the worst Spider-Man comic ever produced…•• Dunno what's worse. That that POS appeared on a professionally published Spider-Man comic ---- or that TERRY AUSTIN inked it!!!
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Andrew W. Farago
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Why? Why not a friend? If it was an anti-drug message, would it "make sense" for Peter to be a meth-head? If it was about tolerance of homosexuals, should Peter come out?
I did the cover for that particular book, and only later did I find out it was Peter who was the victim. I thought it was unnecessarily sensationalistic. Peter has enough crap in his life --- Uncle's death was his fault, remember? He doesn't need more, even in a good cause.
In the case of sexual abuse, victims (or potential victims) really need to know that what happened wasn't their fault, and I'm sure the writer of that story figured that a kid would be more likely to relate to Spider-Man than a supporting character. It was a strange choice, but again, for the book's message and its intended purpose, I can see why that decision was made.
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Andrew W. Farago
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On the subject of worst Spider-Man comics of all time, the Gwen Stacy/Norman Osborn affair storyline was the first time I'd stopped reading Amazing Spider-Man since I'd started collecting twenty-something years earlier.
Runner-up is probably Maximum Carnage, a 14-part crossover series that marked the first time that I realized that just because a story is published by Marvel, it doesn't mean that the story had to be told. It could have been a fun four-parter running through a single title, but it took forever for anything to happen, and the payoff wasn't remotely proportional to the page count.
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