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Chad Carter
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I love the six-armed Spider-Man. I know it couldn't work long-term, but I'd have to have this Spider-Man star in any story I came up with.
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Stephen Bergstrom
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Man, I quickly leafed through this week's ASM...
...Won't be doing that again anytime soon. Ew.
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Brian Miller
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I just noticed something. I started on the latest ESSENTIAL volume of AMAZING ( Vol 11) over the past weekend. I'm absolutely flying thru it. Spider-Man's never been my favorite character ( one of them, but not the top) but I'd have to say it's easier reading that series* than just about any other series. What is it that makes it such a pleasure, I wonder. * Not recent books.
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DW Zomberg
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Vol 11 collects the bulk of the Stern/Romita Jr. stories. Magical stuff.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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John Byrne:
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| Due to its essentially liquid nature, when glass breaks the pieces deform, making it impossible to fit them back together like a jigsaw puzzle.Sort of like Spider-Man. |
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JB, you're well known for your ability in fixing characters who would seem broken. And Spider-Man, when you jumped aboard during the late '90s, needed to be fixed a bit (despite Howard Mackie and the three "DEs" did a good job after the clone saga). Yet, when reading your run, which I appreciated, I felt this was for you a different assignment from, I dunno, FF or Superman. Just like... fixing Spider-Man were actually impossible!
It almost turns out that, after the wedding, whatever an author would do, was wrong for most of the readers. And the only stories appreciated by "fans"... were those who removed Spider-Man from his core concepts. So I wondered, did you receive any diktats from Marvel? Was there stuff you wanted to do but they didn't allow to happen?
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Gary Olson
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Just to clarify what I said above, in case anyone's listening: I meant to say that JB was influenced, even evoked Ditko in that Ringer story. I didn't mean that he copied him, as in the material Mr. Kirkman and others posted.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 28 July 2012 at 5:12am | IP Logged | 7
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JB, you're well known for your ability in fixing characters who would seem broken. And Spider-Man, when you jumped aboard during the late '90s, needed to be fixed a bit (despite Howard Mackie and the three "DEs" did a good job after the clone saga). Yet, when reading your run, which I appreciated, I felt this was for you a different assignment from, I dunno, FF or Superman. Just like... fixing Spider-Man were actually impossible! Very, very, very briefly, Howard and I contemplated a scenario in which the Shaper of Worlds altered reality around Peter Parker. The ultimate house cleaning. Basically, we would have hit "rewind" and everything would have gone back to when Parker was in College. The rest of the Marvel Universe would have remained the same, and to add a touch of angst and agita, Peter would, for a while, remember how it was before the Shaper's intervention. Eventually, these memories would fade in the face of the new reality. Howard and I realized two things, in approximately this order: there were too many writers working at Marvel who would do stories in their books to DELIBERATELY SABOTAGE what we were doing (sad but true), and, in the end, our story was too "cosmic" for a "street level" character like Spider-Man. Does sound hauntingly familiar tho, doesn't it?
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Your fault, JB: you had to choose a deus ex machina like, say, Mephisto. Oh, wait a...
Anyway, your words confirm that fixing Spider-Man without breaking some egg would prove itself extremely hard!
I have been enjoying Spider-Man in these past 4 years but heck, they had to use a demon to fix it all! Argh!
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Richard White
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Recently picked up your Spider-Man collections JB, which came out when I was no longer picking up comics. Chapter One is a fantastic collection but what a joy The Next Chapter collections are, alternating between yourself and JRJR.
There's another collection out next month which I'm really looking forward to!
Edited by Richard White on 28 July 2012 at 6:11am
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John Byrne
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what a joy The Next Chapter collections are, alternating between yourself and JRJR. There was only one downside, for me, in that particular adventure. When we were gearing up, Howard, editor Ralph Macchio and I agreed that the two Spider-Titles would be handled as separate books, not a bi-weekly. We decided that the one I was working on would concentrate mostly on Peter's job, while the other would focus more on life at home and the Bugle. Almost unconsciously, tho, within a very short time the stories started splitting, part one in my book, part two in JR's. I found myself doing a lot of set-ups without conclusions. Which was less fulfilling than working on a Spider-Man book should have been!
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Richard White
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Still not as bad as when I was collecting comics in the early 90's. I tried to read Spider-Man and at this point I was still buying from newsagents but I don't think I once picked up a self contained issue...or even a part one for that matter. I eventually gave up trying.
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John Byrne
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Almost unconsciously, tho, within a very short time the stories started splitting, part one in my book, part two in JR's. I found myself doing a lot of set-ups without conclusions. Which was less fulfilling than working on a Spider-Man book should have been!+++ Still not as bad as when I was collecting comics in the early 90's. I tried to read Spider-Man and at this point I was still buying from newsagents but I don't think I once picked up a self contained issue...or even a part one for that matter. I eventually gave up trying. You're not seriously suggesting that the frustration of not being able to BUY complete stories is in any way GREATER than the frustration of not being able to CREATE complete stories?
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