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Gary Olson
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | 1  

Way to go, Greg Kirkman! I recognised the imagery from Steve Ditko's "Wondrous Worlds of Doctor Strange" cover, too.

Speaking of Ditko, our host did a quite nice evocation of his work in the one Spectacular Spider-Man he did with Roger Stern.

Even the infamous inks of Vinnie Colletta couldn't hold back JB. He drew Spidey battling a baddie called the Ringer who formed little rings of matter from the dust in the air; our hero was leaping about from panel to panel, ducking and dodging, and sometimes rings would be formed about Spidey's arm or leg, but he'd whip the member in question out again, before the circular traps could solidify, by the next panel.

It was just the way Ditko would have done it.

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...it started with this one...

It started for me with the next one. The 60's cartoon show had introduced me to the character, and this was my first Spider-Man comic. The cover drew me in (as they shoudl!) and, admittedly, it was mostly for the pictures, at first (hey, had just turned 6!).

I still have it. That cover is long gone...but it's still a good read.  

 



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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 3  

That cover is so bizarre -- different colors on Spider-Man. So we can tell them apart?
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So, I've been listening to a number of Spider-Man podcasts, lately. One features a group of guys discussing and reviewing all of the character's appearances, in-depth, beginning with AF # 15.

The other is produced by some of the same guys, and is tackling the Clone Saga, specifically. I just listened to the episode where they covered the infamous SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN # 226--where Peter is "revealed" as the clone, and Ben Reilly the original (with Peter violently smacking the pregnant Mary Jane).

The question came up--what is the most controversial Spider-Man story of all time, the Clone Saga or ONE MORE DAY/BRAND NEW DAY?

Sure, there have been others (like THE OTHER and the TROUBLE miniseries, which revealed that Ben and Richard Parker were both banging May, and that she was Peter's real mother), but these two storylines are generally considered to be the standouts.

It's hard to say which one has proven more controversial. If the 'Net was in the 90s what it is now, the Clone Saga would surely have been as hotly debated a topic as the current books are.

And, amazingly enough, despite the years of controversy, the Clone Saga is now being collected into a massive series of trades!

 

The Clone Saga told us that the Spider-Man we'd known since 1975 was a clone. ONE MORE DAY featured Spider-Man making a deal with the Devil to negate his marriage (apparently so he could be free to have drunken, masked sex with the Black Cat. But I digress...).

Which is worse and more offensive? The world may never know.

Spectacular Spider-Man 1976 226 - At Last - True - Revealed - Confrontation - Trial - Bill Sienkiewicz, Sal Buscema

Amazing Spider-Man 545 - Joe Quesada, Richard Isanove

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Did they ever undo May Parker's maternity to Peter?

Reminds me of trailers for "Jane Austen's Mafia" where Jay Mohr reunites with an old lover and lets her know that they have a child she didn't know about...
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The first Spider-Man Story I recall reading had one of those attention-grabbing Romita covers -

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Did they ever undo May Parker's maternity to Peter?

Reminds me of trailers for "Jane Austen's Mafia" where Jay Mohr
reunites with an old lover and lets her know that they have a child she
didn't know about...
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I believe it was deemed non-canon even as it was being published!
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And remember when the "Marvel Universe" was this uncrowded? -

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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | 9  

I was never much a Spider-Man fan. I only bought a hand full of issues of ASM back back in the 60s and 70s. But never missed an episode of the cartoon.

I recall buying this issue:

And these three




I'm sure the fact it was the 100th issue didn't register with me. I probably just liked the covers. Later I traded those three to my best friend for three issues of the Avengers ( Kree-Skrull War!!!) 
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Those covers (issues #100-102) are just terrific.

Who wouldn't want to read those comics?

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Let me reassure you, Greg... Trouble isn't in continuity, it never was.
Our luck, no doubt!

Now, what's worse? Peter as a clone or OMD?

I have good memories of the clone saga. I loved most of the art (Buscema and Sinkiewicz, Bagley, Wieringo...) and I liked the Ben Reilly character, who in that moment was more Peter Parker than the original (remember the "I'm the Spider!" phase? Or the fake parents? Argh).
Yet, Spectacular #226 was hard toa ccept for me: they were telling me that I had not met the real deal (being my first story from 1977), and my hero was a copy of the original. I was sure they would had eventually fixed it all, the only question was... "when?". And they did.

On the other hand, we have a storyline which gave us a noble hero dealing with the devil (and his wife does, too; indeed, she's the one who accepts), and this would be bad. But... I cannot forget which moment are we talking about. One more day is merely the last, bad chapter of a long series of "yuck" events in the life of Peter Parker. That was from the same guys who gave us the Spider-Totem, the Parkers living at Avengers tower, aunt May engaged with Jarvis, Peter puppet of Tony Stark, the organical webs. Was OMD bad? Well, yes. But this didn't amaze me after all of that stuff.

Anyway, there was one good thing in OMD: it gave me back Spider-Man. Do you remember the hard luck super hero, with money/work/romance troubles? He was back. Sure, not everything was good, but at least I could ENJOY my favorite character again. And I hadn't enjoyed Spider-Man since JB left!
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Posted: 24 July 2012 at 4:27am | IP Logged | 12  

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There's an unintended symbolism in that cover.

Due to its essentially liquid nature, when glass breaks the pieces deform, making it impossible to fit them back together like a jigsaw puzzle.

Sort of like Spider-Man.

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