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Nathan Greno
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Ok... (on Facebook) George is saying the new Power Girl design isn't his, but he tweaked the final look.

  
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I agree with Vinny: Why give an explanation for the
reboot/relaunch/nulaunch/whatever you call it? Just stop one month and
start the new stuff the next month. FLASHPOINT had all the makings of an
excellent Barry Allen story if it hadn't been a launchpad for the New 52.
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Wallace Sellars
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I thought Amanda Conner did a good job with Power Girl on that last series,
which was a lot of fun (written by Palimotti and Gray).

Ms. Conner did a great job on that book. When she left, so did I.
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Me too, Wallace. Judd Winick as writer made it that much easier.

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Eric Kleefeld
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Judd Winick is really fun when he's done his own characters.  When he takes over an established title, he just turns them all into Judd Winick characters.
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Vinny, Flashpoint was not an "alteration in time" story. It was an "alteration of reality" story.

It began as you described it, with Prof. Zoom going back in time and changing specific events to make Barry Allen's life as miserable as possible (Killing his mother, killing his dog, etc.) but other forces were at play as well, creating an entirely different "reality" rather than simply an "alternate timeline." Zoom wanted the results of his meddling "fixed" as much as anyone.

In the end, as Barry raced back in time to "set right what once went wrong," he was contacted by a spirit of a woman in red, who is apparently the mythological figure Pandora. For reasons of her own, she wanted the DCU strengthened by reintegrating two component universes that had gone their own way at some point, the Wildstorm Universe and the Vertigo line. Once she folded these plans into what Barry was doing, all of reality changed.

The Nu52 is not the result of meddling with history so much as it is the result of changing all reality, meaning all bets are now off. Vertigo characters walk alongside DC mainstreamers who now work hand in hand with Wildstorm organizations.

None of this is necessary to understand what is going on now in the DC titles any more than it was necessary to read all 12 issues and 55 some odd crossover issues of Crisis to start in on Man of Steel. The explanation of how the Nu52 came to be is there for those who want it. It can be ignored by those who just want to start in reading the adventures of the current DC heroes "from the start."

The only tie leading back to that mini-series is whatever scheme Pandora is up to, and one hopes that will not involve a universe-spanning "crossover."

 

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Cool, when do we get to see Batman and Animal Man team up with Sweettooth?
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One of the biggest drawbacks of "reboots" are the fans caterwauling/pestering about character X and storyline Ys place in the new continuity. The recent Alan Scott reboot has people asking about Jade's role in Kyle Raynor's past. The way I look at it unless/until  they mention Jade she never existed and any story she was involved in didn't either. 
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There are the caterwauling fans...and then the "pros" who cater to the fans'
caterwauling. Drives me nuts!
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Exactly, Mike! If they haven't said that Kyle once dated Jade, fans shouldn't assume that he did. Or that there even is a Jade. Everything's different now.

Besides, it struck me as odd that he was sleeping with someone who was in essence a living power ring and she was into someone who was basically the modern-day incarnation of her daddy.

Comics are all about issues... :-)

 

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"Cool, when do we get to see Batman and Animal Man teacup with
Sweettooth?"

I guess it should be noted that the only Vertigo characters we'll see in
the New 52 are the ones that originated in the DCU, like Swamp Thing
and John Constantine.
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Damn.... that would have been a book worth buying. ;)

... especially if they hadn't teamed up, but "teacupped".
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