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Mal Gardiner Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 April 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 574
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 4:11am | IP Logged | 1
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John, do you have a library of skyscrapers and other architecture you use for reference for these city scenes, or have you simply gotten that good at drafting different building facades over the years? •• Yes. Ouch, I'll take the hit for that poorly phrased question - it was late, and I was tired. Resubmit question: JB, do you have a library of architectural styles you regularly refer to? Your cityscapes are an endless source of inspiration. Cheers, Mal
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 5:24am | IP Logged | 2
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I have a substantial library of "city books". Photo books and architecture books. But I find I refer to them less and less. Very often, I will flip thru a book once or twice, and "internalize" the key elements. Then I build my cityscapes from what's in my head.I return to the books when I need something specific, like a real building, or a real time period.
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Ivan Black Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 May 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 762
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 3
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Awesome! All the characters are spot on as always! This time though, what impressed me the most is the depth and sense of space you've managed to achieve in the little bits that are left for background. Many artists I believe would just leave that empty or draw a couple of the closest buildings. Here, we get the sense of a whole city. Incredible. I could never ever pull this off if I lived to practice for a 1000 years. Hats off!
I'm also impressed that you can memorize such details. This reminds me of a guy who was flown over London in a helicopter. In three weeks' time he drew huge parts of the city in minute and accurate detail from memory alone. I wish I had more of a photographic memory - I always need reference, which is annoying...
So seeing pieces such as this is very inspiring.
Edited by Ivan Black on 05 March 2012 at 8:39am
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 11:01am | IP Logged | 4
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wow, they don't make comic covers like this anymore!
Love the horizontal lines of the figures.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 5
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I wish I had more of a photographic memory - I always need reference, which is annoying...•• Photo reference can be really handy, but it can also be a trap. I know really good artists -- artists much, much better than me -- who sometimes seem unable to draw anything at all without having some kind of reference in front of them. This is why I limit myself to reference only on specific things. Like, if I draw Spider-Man swinging over Manhattan, I will use the "generic Manhattan" I have built in my head. But in the issue of AFTERMATH currently on my board, there is a panorama of the New York skyline from a particular time period. For that I used reference.
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Ryan Maxwell Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 12954
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | 6
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Would there be limits on the number of specific landmarks in a commission? Hey, I'd really like Cap'n Fonebone to be flying past the Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building, the Baxter Building and the Flat Iron building. I know height and relative location could play a factor as well.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | 7
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Three of those are trademarked buildings even Marvel and DC have gotten their wrists slapped for using, Ryan.
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Ryan Maxwell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 8
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No kidding? I had no idea. Good to know.
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Bill Catellier Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 September 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3225
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 9
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Wonderful piece. Never a big CHAMPIONS fan, but a cover like that would certainly grab my attention. Love Swarm.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7778
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 6:25am | IP Logged | 10
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Wait, you can trademark a building so that someone who draws what everyone else sees with their eyes can't be drawn without permission? That's incredible. I understand that they have been designed, and if I really thought about it this only makes sense that you can do that but how is drawing a building in a comic any different from including a building in a pan shot of New York?
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Ed Love Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 6:47am | IP Logged | 11
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Trademarks prohibits using the trademarked item in ads or on the covers, anything that's used to promote the product. Does not cover what is in between the covers of the comic.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2012 at 2:28am | IP Logged | 12
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Thanks for the clarification. Still think it's weird - the buildings turn up in adverts for films.
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