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Paulo Pereira
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The Twins are blond on the cover, I see.
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John Byrne
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Yes -- blonds on the cover, with heavy gray highlights on their costumes. How many editorial eyes would this have had to pass in front of?
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Joel Tesch
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I don't know...it's kind of cool to see, but I wish we could time machine 60s era Ditko to do it. By this time period, the quality of Ditko's work (whether intentional or not) was much diminished IMO.
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Paulo Pereira
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I've heard the phrase "saying black is white" but never realized there was a literal application of it.
As far as AF guest-starring in MACHINE MAN, it's pretty fun to see, but only because it's a rare thing (I can't say I'm a fan of the artwork here, or of the twins' white hair). Anyone know of any other guest appearances by AF around this time (or any time, for that matter)?
I find myself wanting to see what a Barry Windsor-Smith-drawn Sasquatch would look like.
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Matthew Wilkie
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Anyone know of any other guest appearances by AF around this time (or any time, for that matter)? A little later, but there was the Marvel 2-in-1 two-parter. Came out before AF 1, if I recall correctly, but was set between AF 1 and 2.
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About the only non-JB depiction of AF members that I like is JRjr's Sasquatch in the 3-issue Contest of Champions LS.
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Ryan Maxwell
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Yeah...not a big fan of the art. I'm glad AF got some exposure at that time, though.
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Paulo Pereira
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Matthew wrote:
| A little later, but there was the Marvel 2-in-1 two-parter. Came out before AF 1, if I recall correctly, but was set between AF 1 and 2. |
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I guess that would be issues 83 & 84 (the twins' haired turns white again on the latter cover). Like MM, these issues were scripted by DeFalco. I guess he was a big fan. |
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Bob Simko
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Thanks Nathan...haven't seen this issue in a long time! Always room for Ditko, IMHO!
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Brian Miller
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By this time period, the quality of Ditko's work (whether intentional or not) was much diminished IMO ************* Why would you even suggest that Ditko would even produce "diminished" work on purpose? I don't like his stuff from this time period either, but I'd never say he could be doing lesser work intentionally. Is there some information I'm missing where Ditko said he wasn't giving his best efforts at this time?
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Here's Ditko drawing Wolverine in JB's brown version of the costume...
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John Byrne wrote:
| Ditko was among the first to mistake the white highlights on the Twins' shiny black hair for actual white hair, a "debate" that has puzzled and annoyed me for years |
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That one kind of puzzles me too because I think their hair looks blatantly wrong in that picture, even though I'm someone who has been "taken in" by highlight colors over the years -- my mind's eye still expects Spiderman's costume to be red and blue, for instance. Now that I think about it, though, I'm not sure I've ever misread a character's hair color.
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