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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 23 January 2012 at 8:27pm | IP Logged | 1  

"Those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support need to understand that this industry is watching very carefully who's going to stand up for them when their job is at stake. Don't ask me to write a check for you when you think your job is at risk and then don't pay any attention to me when my job is at stake"

This is almost word for word a sentiment uttere by Bob Balaban's character on the West Wing. He played a high powered gay Hollywood producer (host of a planned fundrauiser for the President)  who told one of the West Wing staffers (Josh Lyman, I think) that there was a limit to how much procrastination and flip-flopping they would accept from the Democrats on gay rights issues before the money suplly would dry out.

Not a threat as much as a realistic statement. Politicians often promise action on issues when they want money and support, only to turn their backs on that commitment later. This is not a case of politicians being paid to change their vote. It is a case of politicians getting money and support because people agree with the policies they claim to support, and people getting upset when they learn that their issue has been bartered away.

I certainly wouldn't contribute to such a guy the second time.

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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 3:44am | IP Logged | 2  

I see that other online storage sites have blocked public access to folders due to fears of being charged like Megaupload. Filesonic dropped this function a few days ago. The Chinese government has blocked all of these sites a while back, along with Google Docs, because of this function. You can't have people communicating with each other without the government ensuring that what they are communicating about is approved now, can you?

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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 4:16am | IP Logged | 3  

The problem is that the bills are created as indiscriminate attack weapons that can be (and sometimes are) used to attack relatively harmless things like fair-use parodies and kids doing cover versions of their favourite songs. 

If they attacked only for-profit large scale piracy and illegal porn then I'd be okay with it. ( Some of the piracy peer-to-peer networks that people here in Europe at least use for new US TV shows also regrettably provide easy access to bestiality and child pornography. So regardless of the fact that they enable people in Europe to watch anything from Dexter to the Mentalist the day after the show airs in the US, it would not just probably but definitely be a public service if they burned those networks to the ground and salted the earth.  )

But it would also be nice if there were some legal means by which foreign fans could watch the newest episodes of TV shows online and pay for it.

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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 6:44pm | IP Logged | 4  

Geographic restrictions are incredibly frustrating and short-sighted. It is impossible to find legal content over here in China. I have no idea how to find a legal DVD, since even legitimate shops sell pirate DVD's since legal ones are not available or, due to region restrictions, have not even been made. So, by restricting legal access to their products, people turn to illegal methods. 
The companies not only restrict foreign access, they actively do so. I used to be able to watch Hulu through a VPN over here but Hulu now blocks American VPN servers. What are they scared about? There is no distribution over here and the demand for Western programs is primarily driven by American expats, who have the money to pay for material but are unable to do so. The DVD shops in Shanghai are filled with wealthy Americans buying movies and TV series that the American companies will not sell them. 
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 5  

I know that the restrictions where Europeans can't watch TV-shows on US TV-sites like Hulu are based on foreign rights sales.  The theory is that allowing Europeans to watch US TV online cuts into the value of foreign rights sales to European broadcasters and cable companies.

For people who speak english, the quick fix of watching it online instead of waiting weeks, months or years for the regional version to be broadcast is very appealing. And since people who are trendsetters in terms of TV- viewing in their social circles often don't mind watching undubbed and un-subtitled English language shows, the regional broadcast versions don't get that word-of-mouth boost and there is less "Buzz" around the shows that are now "old" before they start.

Regional broadcasters theoretically  lose out on marketing, on attractive viewership demographics and total viewer figures. And even to Tabloids who have a symbiotic relationship with Film and TV, the temptation to "spoil" shows in real time as "dramatic behind the scenes events" occur often ruins suspense for people. Some shows had carefully concealed events spoiled years before they're broadcast in particular countries. Partly because tabloid reporters watch the shows through illegal means to "keep up" with the gossip.

Basically, online viewing interferes with marketing and market value in foreign markets. At least theoretically.

As for regional DVD coding? That makes sense with some blockbusters that have high sales volumes, where a retailer may be tempted to import thousands of copies so they can sell for instance Mission Impossible 4 two weeks before they arrive in other stores. It makes absolutely no sense with DVDs that are barely viable to produce in the US, and where no-one would even suggest that it was worthwhile to make a separate product for other markets. If I want some onscure B-movie, it'll never be available in Region 2 coding.

But the film companies don't care about low-volume sales items.

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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | 6  

The problem is that over here in China, there is no foreign right sales because the government only allows very few programs to be shown over here. I don't watch Chinese TV but I have only seen one Western show on TV. I know that "Hanna Montana" has its fans but I can do without it. It is kind of funny though, since during commercial breaks, they discuss the American slang used on the the program. 

The problem with DVD coding is that they don't seem to release anything in Region 6. I guess it is to combat piracy but if you ever go into a pirate DVD shop over here, the selection is amazing, with prices from less than a dollar for a DVD. At the front of the shops is the new releases, many of which are still in the theatres or have not been released in North America or Europe. Their current method of preventing piracy doesn't seem to be very effective. 
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 29 January 2012 at 1:17am | IP Logged | 7  

Do they actually use region coding on DVD players over there? Because I usually buy cheap region-free DVD players Made in China. They cost about as much as a recently released DVD, no more.

And as I understand it, one of the reasons China has so much "pirated" stuff is that a lot of Western stuff gets manufactured there, so the official manufacturer often has a hand in the piracy as well. They might use cheaper material or techniques for the knock-offs, but they've got all the info they need to make the copies because the owners of the real thing handed it to them.

They certainly have all the manufacturing capacity they need, at any rate.

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Posted: 31 January 2012 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 8  

You can get western DVD's before they are released in the rest of the world. Usually they get snuck out of the factory early or they do a midnight extra run. The players are all region-free and are cheap. My point is that this situation has occurred due to the unavailability of legal materials. It also has to do with the Chinese belief that copying is fine (always a challenge when teaching over here) and the incredibly low average salaries over here. Hard to justify paying 30 bucks US for a Blu-Ray when your average salary is about 200 US. 
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Posted: 01 February 2012 at 8:06am | IP Logged | 9  

Unavailability and price prohibitive is used a lot over here as excuses by people who buy pirated software and such as well. However, that's no excuse. Just because the manufacturer doesn't make it available for you or at a price you can afford does not make it legal or even morally acceptable to steal it. Food and medicine is one thing, but entertainment and luxury goods? It's not a "right" to be able to watch the latest season of your favorite show or to have the latest game or photoshop on your computer.
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Posted: 01 February 2012 at 8:45am | IP Logged | 10  

 Vinny Valenti wrote:
I'm not against the indictments themselves, mind you - the evidence does appear to be pretty damning. But the site WAS used for legitimate purposes as well, and now people have been locked out of possibly important personal or business-related files because the FBI jumped the gun.

And the dry cleaners down the block with a backroom drug trade or the restaurant with a bookie room are also doing legit business.  Just because there's a front making the appearance of a legal entity doesn't mean that the owners are unaware of the illegal activities being conducted on their property, real or virtual.  
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Posted: 01 February 2012 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | 11  

Matt, I would have to say that it's more akin to the Government shutting down a Shopping Center that is owned by one entity...Several stores were known as being bad businesses, but many others were just doing their everyday, legal stuff...They closed the whole center.  What's worse, the SOPA stuff would hold another business across town liable for linking to this Shopping Center, even if they were linking to one of the legal shops.

Wow,  been a while since I logged in.  I had to get a new password issued.
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Posted: 01 February 2012 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | 12  

"Unavailability and price prohibitive is used a lot over here as excuses by people who buy pirated software and such as well. However, that's no excuse. Just because the manufacturer doesn't make it available for you or at a price you can afford does not make it legal or even morally acceptable to steal it"

I disagree with this.

I enjoy playing old computer and video games, and buy them when they are updated or released on current digital services.

As can be easily guessed, most old games are no longer manufactured or available in any form, in some cases the company that made them no longer existing. For a large number of these games, there is little no chance of it ever being released again, in any form.

When that is the case, you know what? I will download an emulator or a cd image of 15-20 year old game.

Another side to this point is that pirates and archivists were, until the last few years, the only people who were keeping the code of these games and programs preserved. Unlike much early film history, which was lost, due to these efforts (which the publishers would have stopped at near any cost if they could have) the early history of games has been preserved.


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