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Benny Hasa Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 January 2012 at 3:48pm | IP Logged | 1
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Quasimoto is also a neat visual. Has JB ever drawn him before?
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Fritz Short Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 1:31am | IP Logged | 2
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I think Quasimoto was the lower left side of the FF Gallery poster.
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 3
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There has been a perception of Modok as "lame" on the part of creators, I think, due mainly to the character's bizarre Kirby-esque visual. The same with Arnim Zola. It becomes a serious problem for the future viability of the character when these creators cue the readers in on how they feel about him. Mantlo may or may not have been kidding when he turned Katherine Waynesboro into "Ms. Modok" for one issue, but the current staff of Marvel are definitely not kidding about how lame they believe the character to be when they publish entire issues and series on the topic such as Modok: Reign Delay and Modok's Eleven.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | 4
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Long have I admonished fans to not blame the characters for being written badly!
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Michael Hogan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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You just have to love the "shorthand" used in tHe creation of these early Marvel villains, like the Gargoyle, Arnim Zola, and MODOK. They were as ugly as sin, so they MUST have been bad!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 1:17pm | IP Logged | 6
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You just have to love the "shorthand" used in tHe creation of these early Marvel villains, like the Gargoyle, Arnim Zola, and MODOK. They were as ugly as sin, so they MUST have been bad!•• Ah, but the ol' Marvel gang were also quick to turn such presumptions on their heads, with the likes of the Thing, the Hulk, even the Beast in his original more brutish incarnation.
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Luke Styer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | 7
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I have a much easier time taking MODOK seriously visually than I do taking Arnim Zola. On some level Arnim Zola just looks strange to me, while MODOK looks horrifying.
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John Byrne
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Zola might work better if his tech was a little more Steam Punk. He's a bit too sleek to really summon thoughts of Nazi hardware.
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Luke Styer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 2:14pm | IP Logged | 9
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That would probably help.
I don't necessarily think Zola looks lame, though, just that MODOK is a much more striking design. The fact that both characters have that "big face" element to their design makes Zola suffer by comparison. Zola is unsettling, but MODOK seems to show that such a design can be really scary.
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Benny Hasa Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 10
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MODOK was a character that scared me as a child, but as I grew older the things that once scared me were things I wanted to learn more about. The more I learned about the character and his history the more fascinated I became with MODOK. The thought of the character as being some sort of goofball never entered my mind, so I was quite surprised when I found out so many did. Will he be known as a "goofball" ten years from now? There is a good chance, but it would be nice if this character gained more respect in the next few years.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 7:37pm | IP Logged | 11
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I always thought that played correctly, both Arnim Zola and MODOK would be creepy as f**k. Too bad too many writers play them as a joke.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 28 January 2012 at 6:21am | IP Logged | 12
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Your MODOK always looks very angry and very scary.•• Returning to this comment, perhaps worth mentioning that I have found, the few times I have drawn MODOK, that the best way to capture his face is to think of a crying baby!
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