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Thanos Kollias
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Why not? There's no such thing as a Gamma-spawned behemoth that truns green and is strong, either. Or guys that can move planets, for that matter.
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Mad is a state of mind. Does Gamma radiation alter his state of mind thresholds? I think it has been a poorly used plot device for some time now.
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Ah, the Implications Game...

Otherwise known as deriving results never intended by the original authors based on hyperbole and sketchy data so as to acheive "inarguable" solutions to arguments that should never have arisen in the first place...

So, since Captain Marvel has the "strength of Hercules," while Wonder Woman is "Mightier than Hercules," Wonder Woman MUST be able to clean Captain Marvel's clock easily. "IT SAYS SO RIGHT HERE!" Except as E. Nelson Bridwell once pointed out, Captain Marvel also has the Power of Zues in amongst his other attributes, so the Stamina of Atlas that he possesses is backed up with the power levels of the Olympian Sky-Father, as is the Speed of Mercury, and the Strength of Hercules...

So who actually wins? "Well, if he uses that Power of Zues thing, then Captain Marvel is cheating..." Wonder Woman fans would argue...

And hey, as we all know, the Silver Age Superman is the Most Powerful Fictional Character EVER EVER EVER, and he only just barely fought Hercules to a standstill every time they met, so Wonder Woman, "Mightier than Hercules," remember, MUST be Mightier than Someone Who Can Only Fight Hercules to a Standstill... So, Wonder Woman vs. Superman? Easy. Cakewalk. Wonder Woman takes him down in her sleep. Plus, she's magic. EVERYBODY KNOWS Superman has NO defense against magic...!

You know who also had every one of Wonder Woman's attributes, lacking only her maturity and keen judgement? Wonder Tot. Seriously, Wonder Woman was gifted with her abilities from birth. Wonder Tot could do everything Wonder Woman could do, only being a little more headstrong and lacking in coordination...

So, you know who can beat damn near everybody? Wonder Tot.

Ah, the beauty of the Implications Game...

 

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Also comics aren't consistent.   IIRC there was a 60s Superman issue
where Superman defeats the Olympians (including Herc?) And the new
god they created. Superman was declared mightier than all, only
these weren't Wonder Woman's Olympians.
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Ghislain Wachowiak
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 1. Superman
 2. Thor
 3. Hulk
 4. Wonder Woman
 5. Thing
 6. Hercules
 7. Wonder Man
 8. Sasquatch
 9. She-Hulk
10. Power Girl
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Bill Catellier
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In no particular order and sticking to Earth bound heroes...

Superman 
Captain Marvel
Hulk
Thor
Sasquatch
Supergirl
Wonder Woman
Hercules
Hyperion
Martian Manhunter


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Joel Tesch
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  1. Superman
  2. Captain Marvel
  3. Hulk
  4. Thor
  5. Hercules
  6. Wonder Man
  7. Wonder Woman
  8. Underwater Namor
  9. Thing
  10. Sasquatch
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James Elliott
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Wouldn't Captain Marvel (SHAZAM!) be equal to Hercules in terms of strength since he has the wisdom of Solomon; the strength of Hercules; the stamina of Atlas; the power of Zeus; the courage of Achilles?
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James Elliott
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What do we mean by strongest?  Is it a question of (1) a weight lifting competition, (2) an arm wrestling competition or is it (3) a fight?

Contest (1) wouldn't be anything more than strength.  So maybe a clean and jerk, bench press and squatting competition would be most telling.  In that competition Captain Marvel and Hercules should tie.

Contest (2) might involve leverage as well as strength.  I think this would favor short armed contestants.

Obviously contest (3) has a lot more in it than strength, so I think it's the worst of the three in measuring strength.  After all, Batman can beat anyone in a fight if he has enough prep time and he's fairly weak.
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Only Marvel:

1- Hulk
2- Sentry
3- Gladiator
4- Hercules
5- Thor
6- Beta Ray Bill
7- Silver Surfer
8- Wonder Man
9- Underwater Namor
10- Hyperion
 
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Brian Miller
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Forgot Beta Ray Bill!
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Why not? There's no such thing as a Gamma-spawned behemoth that truns green and is strong, either. Or guys that can move planets, for that matter.

It would literally take forever for the Hulk to get infinitely mad. It would take infinite time. So it’s best to leave infinity out of it.

What are some of the greatest feats of strength we’ve seen the Hulk perform in actual comics? I’ve read some stories where Superman did move planets and I can’t recall anything in that ridiculous league from the Hulk.


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The strongest feat I've seen for the Hulk was during World War Hulk,
where he was so mad and strong that his footsteps where shaking the
entire Eastern Seaboard, risking breaking it off or something like that.
And that is still no where near moving planets, once several planets at
the same time. And where Superman moved planets on multiple
ocassions, this happened once.

(I used to say, Pre-crisis Superman didn't have superstrength; he was
a reality bender who mimiced super-strength.)
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