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Brad Brickley Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2004 April 29 Location: United States Posts: 8290
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 12:27am | IP Logged | 1
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Ted: ...though I maintain that John Byrne is my all-time favorite John Byrne inker. Natch!
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I agree. When JB inks the end result looks like... JB! I like that best.
*** I second this opinion. I can't figure why any editor wouldn't want to have JB ink his own stuff. Thank the stars for IDW and the great work JB has going on there now.
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Felicity Walker Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2008 February 19 Location: Canada Posts: 349
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 12:55am | IP Logged | 2
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I liked Klaus Janson's inking on John Byrne's pencils on Wolverine.
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Thanos Kollias Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2004 June 19 Location: Greece Posts: 5009
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 3:12am | IP Logged | 3
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i HATED Janson over Byrne. As for JB's own inks, there have been times that I liked what he was doing and others that I didn't. For the arc in discussion, Terry would be the obvious choice, I wonder what happened. Maybe the editor didn't like their then latest collaboration in Orion?
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Philippe Cordier Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2006 September 07 Location: France Posts: 175
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 4:52am | IP Logged | 4
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I loved the JB/ KJ team on this Wolverine arc (minus the last issue, all JB). I saw both of them on the page. Maybe a little bit more of Klaus Janson but, if I'm not mistaken, the book was done with breakdowns from JB, not full pencil (that's why Klaus may seem heavy handed to some Byrne fans)
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David Ferguson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2007 March 17 Location: Ireland Posts: 6782
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 6:31am | IP Logged | 5
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I wonder what the figures are on artists being artist/ inker vs. having two people doing it. I like when artists do their own inking because I'm seeing their work.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 2005 May 11 Posts: 133514
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 6:56am | IP Logged | 6
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The whole idea behind having a separate penciler and inker has been kind of corrupted and lost over the "generations".Once upon a time, the idea was that a strong storyteller could do pencils that were fairly loose, and thus be able to produce a high count of pages while different inkers tightened and polished the work for reproduction. Down thru the years, tho, for unknown reasons, pencils seemed to get tighter and tighter, until the inkers were required to do little more than trace what was on the page. (Terry Austin has occasionally referred to himself as a "tracer", meaning no pejorative connotation.) When we run into inkers who evidently think themselves better artists than the pencilers, this can create problems, of course. I cannot count the number of times I have seen my work "fixed" by inkers who clearly did not have the artistic skills they thought they did!
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Kip Lewis Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2011 March 01 Posts: 2880
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 7:12am | IP Logged | 7
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Do you ever wonder when people say they prefer your older style better, they actually mean they prefer a previous inker, like Austin's inks or the coloring style used on your older works, rather than referring to changes in your pencil work?
Most of us non-artist types have trouble separating the three. I know I have often credited or blamed the penciler with everything, until I learned better.
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2004 April 30 Location: Canada Posts: 1985
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 8:08am | IP Logged | 8
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Conversely, I gave Steve Bissette far too much credit when I read his issues of Swamp Thing, not realizing the real magic came from John Totleben's inking until John did a few solo issues of pencils and inks.
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Kip Lewis Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2011 March 01 Posts: 2880
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 9
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Peter that is probably true for me too; like I said, I am a none artist type so it blurs on who did what.
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Brennan Voboril Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2011 January 15 Posts: 1747
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 10
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Worst Byrne inker for me was Nelson. God, I hated the finished product. The pencils are so nice. I have to wonder what DC was thinking. Did anyone like it?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | 11
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I have to wonder what DC was thinking.•• They wanted to "modernize" my pencils. Which raises the eternal question, if you don't want what an artist does, why hire that artist?
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Greg Woronchak Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 2007 September 04 Location: Canada Posts: 1631
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | 12
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DC seems pretty clueless overall, nothing they do surprises me anymore.
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