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Brad Brickley
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Posted: 2011 December 16 at 12:27am | IP Logged | 1  

Ted: ...though I maintain that John Byrne is my all-time favorite John 
Byrne inker. Natch!

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I agree. When JB inks the end result looks like... JB! I like that best.

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I second this opinion. I can't figure why any editor wouldn't want to have JB ink his own stuff. Thank the stars for IDW and the great work JB has going on there now.
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Felicity Walker
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I liked Klaus Janson's inking on John Byrne's pencils on Wolverine.
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i HATED Janson over Byrne.
As for JB's own inks, there have been times that I liked what he was doing and others that I didn't.
For the arc in discussion, Terry would be the obvious choice, I wonder what happened. Maybe the editor didn't like their then latest collaboration in Orion?
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I loved the JB/ KJ team on this Wolverine arc (minus the last issue, all JB). I saw both of them on the page. Maybe a little bit more of Klaus Janson  but, if I'm not mistaken, the book was done with breakdowns from JB, not full pencil (that's why Klaus may seem heavy handed to some Byrne fans)

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David Ferguson
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I wonder what the figures are on artists being artist/ inker vs. having two people doing it.

I like when artists do their own inking because I'm seeing their work.

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The whole idea behind having a separate penciler and inker has been kind of corrupted and lost over the "generations".

Once upon a time, the idea was that a strong storyteller could do pencils that were fairly loose, and thus be able to produce a high count of pages while different inkers tightened and polished the work for reproduction.

Down thru the years, tho, for unknown reasons, pencils seemed to get tighter and tighter, until the inkers were required to do little more than trace what was on the page. (Terry Austin has occasionally referred to himself as a "tracer", meaning no pejorative connotation.)

When we run into inkers who evidently think themselves better artists than the pencilers, this can create problems, of course. I cannot count the number of times I have seen my work "fixed" by inkers who clearly did not have the artistic skills they thought they did!

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Do you ever wonder when people say they prefer your older style
better, they actually mean they prefer a previous inker, like Austin's
inks or the coloring style used on your older works, rather than
referring to changes in your pencil work?

Most of us non-artist types have trouble separating the three. I know
I have often credited or blamed the penciler with everything, until I
learned better.
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Conversely, I gave Steve Bissette far too much credit when I read his issues of Swamp Thing, not realizing the real magic came from John Totleben's inking until John did a few solo issues of pencils and inks. 
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Kip Lewis
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Peter that is probably true for me too; like I said, I am a none artist
type so it blurs on who did what.
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Brennan Voboril
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Worst Byrne inker for me was Nelson.  God, I hated the finished product.  The pencils are so nice.  I have to wonder what DC was thinking.  Did anyone like it?  
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I have to wonder what DC was thinking.

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They wanted to "modernize" my pencils. Which raises the eternal question, if you don't want what an artist does, why hire that artist?

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Greg Woronchak
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DC seems pretty clueless overall, nothing they do surprises me anymore.
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