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Ray Brady
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John Byrne
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And, like Spider-Man, we are left with the eternal question "How does he make a fist?"
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Josh Goldberg
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The auxiliary button looks a little lower than where his fingers would naturally curl up when he makes a fist; like he has to make a special effort to reach them. Maybe he has to double-click them, like Spider-Man has to double-click his webshooters (I remember reading that in a letter column in the early Eighties).
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John Byrne
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Every think about that double-click? About the problems that it could cause in the kind of high speed action in which Spider-Man so often finds himself involved? When even a fraction of a second can make a life or death difference?And go beyond that. Think about what happens to a fist during a fight. Even a fist that isn't attached to a superhero. The constant flexing, the unconscious, even involuntary curling and uncurling. Double-clicking is far from a practical solution.
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Greg Reeves
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I have to find the source, but I'm pretty sure Cyclops' button ended up on his thumb. Perhaps it's described that way in the OHOTMU entry?
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Mike Howell
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Greg, I know it's written that Cyclops has a switch in the thumb of his glove in Secret Wars #6
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Nathan Greno
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Now someone explain how Scott's powers work...
..."melt"?
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Flavio Sapha
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I like the Cockrum design.
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Thanos Kollias
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I think Stan Lee wrote the panel wrong. There is no indication the ice is melting, just that Cyke is blasting it layer by layer (we see chunks of ice, not water or vapor). Even Angel's comment makes no sense. "get rid of the ICE, leave the WING" would have been a better fit.
As for the visor, I LOVED Cockrum's design. In Greece we didn't get the Neal Adams issues, so the visor, as depicted by Neal, was an image I missed. And while I liked the Kirby/Roth visor, when first I saw the Cockrum visor as depicted by JB (in X-Men#125), I fell in love with it. Unfortunately, only two artists made the visor work for me, JB and Paul Smith. Everyone else (Cockrum included!) somehow made it seem less real or functional.
When JB did Hidden Years, and after having finally read the Neal Adams issues, I decided that both visors are great and now I think I prefer the original visor.
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Michael Penn
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In the artwork that Nathan posted we see Cyclops exercising his power and the visor... disappearing! I recall that happening in a few other Kirby panels. An error?
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John Byrne
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..."melt"?•• And if the beam had been blue, as Kirby apparently intended, Scott would probably have ended up using it to FREEZE things! In that particular panel, you can tell from the chunks of ice flying off Angel's wings that Jack didn't mean for Cyclops to be using his beam as a heat ray, so we can mark this down as one of those rare occasions when Stan wrote against the pictures, and it didn't work.
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John Byrne
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In the artwork that Nathan posted we see Cyclops exercising his power and the visor... disappearing! I recall that happening in a few other Kirby panels. An error?•• Possibly. Or just "artistic license".
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