Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
The John Byrne Forum
Byrne Robotics > The John Byrne Forum << Prev Page of 3 Next >>
Topic: JBF Reading Group: Marvel: The Lost Generation #3/10 (Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
William Roberge
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 05 July 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 11304
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 1  

This and GENERATIONS, in my opinion, are some of the only series that handle time passage and character aging properly.
Back to Top profile | search | www e-mail
 
William Roberge
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 05 July 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 11304
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 8:33am | IP Logged | 2  

Oh, and please notice....."WUNK" and "FWA-BOOM"!

 

Hmm, spell check is OK with "WUNK".

 

Back to Top profile | search | www e-mail
 
Wallace Sellars
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 May 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 17698
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 8:48am | IP Logged | 3  

I always enjoy seeing JB draw the Sub-Mariner.
Back to Top profile | search | www
 
Michael Arndt
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 26 April 2004
Posts: 8565
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | 4  

Like the evolution of the Hipster throughout the series. Count me in as enjoying the way JB draws and handles the Sub-Mariner.

Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Grumpy Old Guy

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133245
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | 5  

As I have noted before, one of the smartest things I ever did was pulling out reference on how the Sub-Mariner was ORIGINALLY drawn, and realizing that Bill Everett did NOT intend Namor to have a "triangular" head. Rather, he was drawing SWIMMER'S HAIR -- as if our Atlantean prince emerged from the water and ran his hands back thru his lock to get them off his face.

Thus, three distinct PLUMES of hair, which, unfortunately, mutated into a "flat" skull.

Back to Top profile | search
 
Joe Smith
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 August 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 6664
Posted: 25 November 2011 at 2:59pm | IP Logged | 6  

TRADE PAPERBACK PLEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!
Back to Top profile | search | www e-mail
 
Jean-Francois Joutel
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 06 November 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 315
Posted: 26 November 2011 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | 7  

As great as this issue is, I can't help but have that Get Smart bit running in my head.

"Not Craw... CRAW!"


Edited by Jean-Francois Joutel on 26 November 2011 at 2:43pm
Back to Top profile | search | www
 
Gary Olson
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 September 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 382
Posted: 04 December 2011 at 8:12pm | IP Logged | 8  

Yes, Wallace... it's good to see JB drawing Sub-Mariner.
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
John Byrne
Avatar
Grumpy Old Guy

Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133245
Posted: 04 December 2011 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | 9  

This and GENERATIONS, in my opinion, are some of the only series that handle time passage and character aging properly.

••

Each for its own reason. GENERATIONS, of course, by virtue of being an "imaginary story", didn't have to worry about the repercussions of aging characters. In fact, aging the characters was about 80% of what the book was created for!

LOST GENERATION, on the other hand, by dealing with events set exclusively in the Past (well, okay, a little bit in the Future) was free to allow real time to pass, again because it was a large part of the whole POINT of the series.

But real time remains a problem in regular, ongoing monthlies. The Fantastic Four celebrated their Fiftieth Anniversary this year (2011). There's no way fifty years can have passed for the characters, yet there are some fans who not only want this to be the case, but who are prepared to jump thru the most extraordinary hoops to make it happen. Like establishing that there is something that is causing the main characters to age more slowly. (One reader suggested the radiation in Peter Parker's blood was causing his own aging process to be slowed down tremendously, AND having the same effect on people around him. Because, you know, nobody would notice THAT, right?)

The truly bizarre thing is, even as there are some readers who can, with a straight face, say the adventures of a eighty year old Batman (and he'd really be MUCH older) would be "interesting", there are those who want real time to pass but leave the characters somehow unaffected. Which is, when you think about it, EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS. The only difference is, because these are works of FICTION, we don't have to actually SAY that "real time" is passing but the characters are somehow "immune" to it. After all, seriously, what's the point of that?

Back to Top profile | search
 
Michael Hogan
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 2061
Posted: 05 December 2011 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 10  

The issue of fictional time passing reminds me of Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe stories -- another example of it being done right. Stout wrote those stories from 1934 to 1975; the main characters never really aged, the world just progressed "around" them.
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Marc M. Woolman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 April 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 2096
Posted: 05 December 2011 at 8:47am | IP Logged | 11  

That's the first time I've seen Al Milgrom's inks on JB. I like 'em.
Back to Top profile | search
 
Armindo Macieira
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 15 October 2006
Location: Portugal
Posts: 955
Posted: 05 December 2011 at 11:09am | IP Logged | 12  

"Thus, three distinct PLUMES of hair, which, unfortunately, mutated into a "flat" skull."

************************************************************ **************

Never understood the "flat head"! That's why I loved how John Buscema drew Namor in his first series... with a round (normal) head. Like JB did later in the new monthly title.
Back to Top profile | search | www
 

<< Prev Page of 3 Next >>
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login