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Kip Lewis
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Oh, last post reminded me of my least favorite: the Scarlet Witch.
Suddenly she has the power to alter reality effortlessly. When did she
become Cosmic Cube powerful? Sometimes I wonder if this came
out of a misreading of Immortus' manipulations of Wanda in
"Avengers West Coast."
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Jason Larouse
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Thanks for reminding me why I no longer read the Avengers!
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Don Zomberg
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...at least 20 years. Iron Man 2 came out in 2010.
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Jason Larouse
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He doesn't have a drinking problem in Iron Man 2. He gets drunk because he thinks he's going to die, which is a reasonable reaction. He's never shown to have an addiction to alcohol.
I was really only talking about in the comics though.
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Garry Porter II
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The Potency/Structure or Breakability of Cap's Shield
It's the unknown or x-factor in Cap's Shield I think many writers/editors of the past 20 years misunderstand.
Even though the shield has been shattered only a handful of times in the past 20 years, it's still way too many times to me.
I think the misunderstanding comes in with the structure of Cap's shield. When it was revealed that Cap's shield was made up of mainly Vibranium/Adamantium, everyone was okay with that.
But, when it was also revealed that Cap shield had some unknown factor in it that actually made the shield what it was, I think writers/editors misundertood that(especially the modern ones). I think they took this unknown factor/element or just plain x-factor to mean that it weakened the molecular bond or fusion of the Vibranium/Adamantium instead of increasing it or strengthening and taking it to the next level in some mysterious way.
Now, it seems like the modern thinking of Cap's shield is that certain Gods and cosmic powered beings can break the shield.
The most recent example of this being the Fear Itself event/issue where Odin's brother catches Cap's shield as it is hurled at him, and easily with almost no effort shatters it into hundreds of pieces. Then he laughs. And, if I'm not mistaken, this is a new character.t
So IMO, it's putting the message out there that Cap's shield is pretty breakable if u are a God of a certain class or some cosmic being, which is not good.
I thought that it should be the opposite of this understanding. Simply put, eventhough you have so many Gods and cosmic beings in Marvel, Cap's shield should be pretty unbreakable/impenetrable despite them.
Of course there are going to be exceptions here or there, but the exception to the rule should be very sparse.
But the breaking of Cap's shield should not be used as some weak plot tool in some event or issue to show how powerful a new character is imo.
A gross misunderstanding.
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Ted Pugliese
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But there it is. Tony getting drunk in IM2 and IM started with Tony
drinking. And yes it was a long time ago, but Denny O had to follow
up the original story with Tony giving up the armor. This made the
alcohol permenant because it was basically the origin of IM II/War
Machine. Which Bendis had to revisit too, a la Wanda.
So say what you want. One story was ground breaking. The rest made
a mess of Tony.
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Dave Phelps
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Just thought of another one - what Galactus needs for a planet to be "edible" for him. A lot of creative types seem to screw that one up.
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Kip Lewis
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Deleted.
Edited by Kip Lewis on 20 September 2011 at 6:15pm
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Rick Whiting
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The whole "Hank Pym is a wife beater who has always been mentally unstable" is one of the biggest misunderstanding of a character and misreading of a past story that I have ever seen from both fans and fans turned pro. Many fans and fans turn pro seem to forget that all of Hank's mental problems were the result of being accidentally exposed to experimental chemicals after his lab accidentally exploded.
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Joseph Gauthier
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It seems to me that the Question is often mis-represented by design.
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Tony Midyett
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@Tony, no, I got what you meant. What I wasn't clear about was that I
wonder if the reason people misunderstood the original story as a
"one time event" was because the modern view (& what people teach
to their daughters) is there is no such thing as a "one time event".
And because of that, they misunderstood the story and labeled Hank
as a wife-beater. (So, my point was "why did people misunderstand
that story, when it was so clear in the story?" Though I suppose the
other reason is many Gen Xer hate clean, sane heroes.)
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Oh, yes, I agree! Gen X and Gen Y seem to loathe the very idea of a decent human being, as if such a thing is purely mythical. But I say that if "good people" are a myth, then we need stories about heroes even more.
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John Byrne
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Just thought of another one - what Galactus needs for a planet to be "edible" for him. A lot of creative types seem to screw that one up.•• Galactus started to go wrong the moment people began saying he "eats planets". Altho that is a handy shorthand for describing what he does, it is in no way ACCURATE.
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