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Chris Wood
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I have to wonder how long it will be before these versions of the DC characters inevitably "cross over" with some other, previous versions, leading to annual team-ups and some future Crisis-type event.
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Jesse Garcia
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I give it less than 1 year.
There will be an initial spike in sales, that's to be expected, it's the same morbid curiosity that makes people gawk at car wrecks on the freeway. But once the novelty wears off in about 3 to 4 months, and the sales start to level off at what they will be, or continue to drop from there ... DC will realize that this was a HORRIBLE mistake and will be running in circles trying to correct it.
And of course they have to have some sort of exit strategy like this was Darkseid, Brainiac, or maybe even the Time-Trapper messing with the time stream, and the original universe was kept in a pocket dimension by Dr. Fate or Zatanna or some such nonsense like that.
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Shawn Kane
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I'm going to try to be positive and hope that the whole thing is a step forward and the mistakes that were made lo these many years will not be made again. I'd also like to see some classic writers and artists return to DC and be part of this eventually. Naive? Probably. But why be negative when none of this has even begun?
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Bill Catellier
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Don't really care for Didio's comment regarding the JSA. Guess he's painted himself into a corner with Superman as the 1st hero. Not sure where that would leave the JSA. At this point I'd rather see the JSA placed back in WWII with no interaction with JLA or current stories.
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Kip Lewis
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No JSA but there is Mr. Terrific and Hawkman comics, both JSA
characters.
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Tim Farnsworth
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Shawn Kane wrote:
| I kind of feel bad for Marc Guggenheim since he was working towards an upbeat story for JSA and now it's being cut short. |
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"Working towards"? I haven't read JSA in some time, so I may be offbase here, but I can't see why you would have to "work toward" an upbeat story. Can't you just...tell one whenever you want?
I have a feeling we're seeing one of the negative effects of long story arcs here, such that if things have been dreary for a while (as often seems to be the case), it might feel too abrupt to turn things around into something energetic and upbeat in just the space of an issue or two. So you've got to build to it, lay groundwork, slowly transition characters, etc.
I've seen that done effectively, but it also sounds stifling. If you want things to be more up-tempo in the JSA or anywhere, you should be able to get to that place in a single issue, two at most.
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Bill Catellier
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Not sure if Hawkman or Mr. Terrific will have any JSA connection in this reboot. Betting they initially won't. Maybe later on when we find a "secret origin" involving a clandestine organization, the JSA.
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Shawn Kane
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I have a feeling we're seeing one of the negative effects of long story arcs here, such that if things have been dreary for a while (as often seems to be the case), it might feel too abrupt to turn things around into something energetic and upbeat in just the space of an issue or two. So you've got to build to it, lay groundwork, slowly transition characters, etc. ___________________________________________________________ I assume that this was the reasoning behind what Guggenheim wanted to do.
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Brian Hague
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Regarding the origin of the Justice League, if memory serves, the Englehart/Dillin issue shown above did not result in the formation of a Justice League, but rather takes place a few years before the League comes about. Everyone agrees it's a good idea, but not one whose time has come. The actual origin of the League was shown in issue #9, revisited in #200, and rebooted for the Post-Crisis set in Secret Origins #32. I believe Justice League: Year One is the Post-Zero Hour take on the idea. 
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Aaron Smith
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In a live chat last night, Jim Lee said the JLA "has never had an awesome
origin." *** Wow. Really, Jim? And what have you worked on that's been anywhere near as awesome as the Silver Age? X-Men after it had jumped the shark? Your constntly late Batman title? Whatever.
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Kevin Brown
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And what makes an "awesome origin" these days? One that takes 6 issues to tell instead of one.
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Brian Hague
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It's another in a long line of cases where the creator says to himself about his latest idea, "I thought of this. Therefore, I must have thought of it first!" Jim Lee and Geoff Johns have apparently told themselves they've come up with a really super-cool idea for a Justice League origin story. Well, that means... There must never have been one before! They're geniuses!! Or... They honestly believe the Appellax Aliens Invasion story is lame.
Edited by Brian Hague on 12 June 2011 at 6:41pm
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