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Trevor Giberson
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Something tells me that, regardless of quality, Justice League is going to dramatically outsell Daredevil.
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Daredevil is selling the highest numbers it has since it was relaunched in '99. It's outdoing Brubaker's and Bendis' numbers. I agree it won't do JLA numbers though.
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Trevor Giberson
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 David Ferguson wrote:
Daredevil is selling the highest numbers it has since it was relaunched in '99. It's outdoing Brubaker's and Bendis' numbers. I agree it won't do JLA numbers though.


According to this link that's not accurate.  It is doing very well, though.  Very likely this was a bump due to a new #1.

Either way, the previews look great.  I think I'll give it a try.
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You really should Trevor. It's excellent. Just as aside both JLA and Daredevil 1 & 2 have sold out at my LCS.

So far the new #1s I've read have all been fun, engaging and accessible. I have to admit that I'm also enjoying the feeling of not being as familiar with these versions of the characters. I'm quite sure what's going to happen with them.   
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You won't regret it, Trevor.

Kevin, I'm thinking the JL book was more obviously mass ordered than DD, but DD was completely sold out according to the shop's message placard in the slot. I mean, this is Laughing Ogre in NoVA, and they're pretty good about keeping stock even on a niche book like DD. So I was pleasantly surprised to see DD sold out, bummed not to find the next ish, which apparently was delayed as indicated.

This is a shop smack near George Mason U., and quite a few students frequent it. I'm hoping they are the ones reading DD, and not aging men such as myself.

I feel like there were a lot of JL issues, more than I expected with the hype, on the day after release. I don't usually hit the shop right after a big release, and I can't say how many books had gone out the door. There was some discussion with a customer, a post-college grad and his wife and little kid, apparently the dude a former reader who'd checked out sometime in the past and was curious. I don't think there was a sale. In this economy, a starting family might not be up for that extra $4 hit.

So, if nothing else, I'll assume former readers are curious enough to step foot into a shop, even if they aren't buying yet. I say "yet" because, like many things popular and great ("Northern Exposure", "Millennium"), people don't arrive until late.

 

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I'm still curious what "fun" means within the Nu 52.

Daredevil (pretty much the only superhero comic I can honestly use the term with), was fun because it had humor, and not smarmy self-referential humor but story-ingrained character-derived humor. It was fun because it portrayed a standard superhero fight scene with an evergreen approach and brilliant layouts. It was fun because I didn't even think about any melodramatic portents of doom, just the excitement of a sadly-novel approach of clear storytelling that will enable me to buy the book regularly.

Is that the kind of "fun" you all are talking about?

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Chad, fun in not knowing what to expect.  For the first time in a VERY long time, I have no idea what to expect.  And to me, that's fun.  Just being able to open a comic and to not know.

Yes, I know the characters.  Yes, I grew up with them.  But they're revamped, for good or bad, and you won't know quite what to expect now.  They're familiar, yet different.

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Man alive, those sales numbers are bad... didn't realize so many books were under 20k in sales.

How can Marvel legitmately say a book like Deadpool is a "mega-popular hit" when it only sells 25,000 per month.

What am I missing?

 

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Chad, fun in not knowing what to expect.  For the first time in a VERY long time, I have no idea what to expect.  And to me, that's fun.  Just being able to open a comic and to not know.

Yes, I know the characters.  Yes, I grew up with them.  But they're revamped, for good or bad, and you won't know quite what to expect now.  They're familiar, yet different.

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Two thoughts about this. One, talented writers should be able to do that without throwing out most of the history and continuity.  Most of the titles I'm seeing could have been made to work without doing so. Otherwise, what I expect to see is a lot of retreads disguised as new: Batman and Superman meeting for the first time. Again. The new villains Brainiac, Titano, Chemo, Terra Man, Abra Kadabra, Mirror Master, etc. Barry Allen ultimately romancing and winning Iris West (or her death). The only thing I'm unsure of is exactly how they'll screw it all up this time. When and who will this continuity's Hawkworld Hawkman be?

Two, if what excites you is that you are just now "discovering" Superman and his mythos for the "first time" is what is turning me off. I've done that already too many times. When I pick up a Superman comic, I expect the plot and the villains and those concepts to excite me and take me somewhere new, but part of the attraction of Superman et al is that I already "know" the characters and status quo. I don't pick up a Sherlock Holmes story in order to see a character I don't recognize. I get books with new characters and/or creator-owned characters for that particular fix. Each serves a particular niche.

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Waid rebooted Daredevil? Isn't this the same guy who lambasted JB over Superman?

I've enjoyed some of Waid's work in the past and he was friendly to me when I met him a few years ago but I'm trimming down 90-95% of what I used to buy each month and I'm not going to be wasting money on the majority of the DC line or some of what Marvel is putting out. The "back to basics" approach doesn't need to happen every single time a new writer/artist comes on a series.
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With respect Ed, I don't think DC should be aiming their Superman books towards you.  Or me, really.  They should be aiming them at 13 year old kids.  Your complaints are very much the complaints of an adult comic fan who has been following the characters for decades.  DC's been accommodating them (us) since at least the speculator crash and it hasn't helped sales at all.

I think DC's done something interesting for a change - in an attempt to grab new readers, they've risked a massive jump off point for old readers. I hope it works out for them.
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While I see some valid complaints, I think a lot of comments in this thread are just nit-picking.  I get the feeling that some posters want this to fail.  If so, that's just sad.
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