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Dave Phelps
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Peter, re: Secret Six, I don't think she did.  From my read of it, the heroes took them down and sent them to jail.  (Check the injuries - Deadshot got clocked by a green beam, Cat Man took a crossbow bolt in the shoulder, etc.) They were a bit more brutal than usual, but I can't imagine Simone having the Superman Family and the Justice League killing their foes.
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can't stand the idea for Captain marvel/thunder in Flashpoint
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So now the Flashpoint retcon is that six kids combine into one Super-Hero called Captain Thunder?  Not for me.

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Is Captain Thunder for Flashpoint or Post-Flashpoint?
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Flashpoint, nothing has been revealed post-Flashpoint.
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"NEW: If super-heroes have only existed for five years, how has Batman gone through so many Robins?

Robin is an intern program -and a very intensive one at that."


Really DC? Really?
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Someone at DC must have had a discussion about tv cartoons from the 80's and the subject "VOLTRON" came up and then the idea for Captain Thunder came to be.
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And He-Man since Tawky Tawny now turns into a Battle Cat rip-off when Captain Thunder shows up.
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So this exciting new direction for Captain Marvel is basically just the DCnU's way of showing that somebody, somewhere, once read a comic called The Forever People by Jack Kirby? 

Good for them! Maybe this means one day they'll actually get some real inspiration from Kirby and create something new!


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(Wrote this before I read Brad's. I knew there were more.)

Multiple people merging into one being/entity has been used in many
places:

Captain Planet
Psi-force
There is a brother/sister twin children of Eternal n Deviant who
merged into single entity.
All Eternals merge into Uni-mind.

And I'm sure there are others.

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Hahaha that Cap Marvel/Thunder image. My favorite part is always to identify how many PC ethnic/lifestyle cliches will be included, like in the new Ultimate Spider-Man who is Latino/Black.

Looks like we've got an Asian invalid for natch epic sympathy who has never kissed a girl, a greasy white punk on dope probably with a Polish/Italian surname and rage issues, a white hippie teen from a privaleged background who resents her parents for being Tea D-Baggers, the obligatory fat kid from the broken home who dreams of being a baseball player, the black/Hispanic girl most likely with an older brother in a street gang, and the Bruce Banner straitlaced computer expert/nerd. Unless of course the computer hacker is the Asian (more likely) and the Bruce Banner kid a Doogie Houser knockoff who dreams of being a doctor to help the poor but has to put his dreams on hold to be one-6th of Captain Thunder.

What didn't they hit? The hot midunderstood cheerleader? 

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"Inspiration from Kirby" was the driving force for Grant Morrison's Seven Soldiers and Final Crisis, which focused on the rebirth of the New Gods on Earth as mortals, Darkseid's use of the Anti-Life Equation to conquer much of the world, and moved such distant future events as Kamandi's talking animals to the present. If memory serves, Captain Marvel's Mr. Tawky-Tawny was mauled nearly to death by a patrol of cortexin-enhanced tiger-soldiers...

Ahh, the blessings of a unified fictional universe...

Thus far, I see the Flashpoint "Capt. Thunder" as simply another take on one of DC's properties, with no more relevance after the series than the "War Between Wonder Woman and Aquaman" is likely to have. ("Hey, guys, remember when Peter David rewrote Aquaman to take the place of young Diana's underwater suitor, Mer-Boy? C'mon, you two! Where's the love??")

As a temporary take on the character, I'm okay with this version of the good Captain. If nothing else, it does away with the "10-year-old in a grown-up body" doofus version we've been force-fed for the past few decades. "Big" was a good movie. I get that. You know what it was not? The story of Captain Marvel.

The part that I can do without is the facial scarring that was apparently caused by Vengeful Murder-Queen Diana clawing his face at some point in the past. That's yawn-inducing, and like most "epic crossover" bilge has everything to do with desperate-seeming plot contrivances and nothing to do with the basis of the characters. Still, nothing new there...

 

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