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Trevor Smith
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I'm really tired of the glowing red eyes. He looks more like a glowering super-villain than a hero.
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Thanos Kollias
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I don't know about villain, since Wonder-Man and Cyclops to a lesser level look like that, but it is a bad look for Superman.
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John Byrne
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I'm really tired of the glowing red eyes. He looks more like a glowering super-villain than a hero.•• Typical of the overkill approach we find in far too many modern comics. It seems forgotten that he's supposed to be able to use his heat vision without anyone noticing -- ie, that the beams AND the effect in his eyes are invisible! He's not Cyclops! Altho, when I was art robot on ACTION COMICS a while back, I was handed a script in which his heat vision was played exactly as if he WAS Cyclops -- battling Black Adam, Superman used his heat vision for concussive effect!
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Trevor Smith
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I could definitely accept some artistic license, to show *some* kind of effect when he's actually using his heat vision, but really, when he's changing clothes?
And JB, do you know if that scene was a matter of the writer not understanding Superman's powers, or not caring and just going for a cool visual?
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John Byrne
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And JB, do you know if that scene was a matter of the writer not understanding Superman's powers, or not caring and just going for a cool visual?•• No idea. On ACTION, when I raised any questions, I was told to "drawn what you're told to draw!" So I turned off that part of my brain and just made pictures, whether the pictures themselves made any sense or not.
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Greg Woronchak
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Superman used his heat vision for concussive effect!
Maybe the writer just watched Superman 2, with the weird 'interpretations' of his powers (like lifting people from afar with a finger) <g>.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Paul Cornell on the issue:
I joyfully await the day when comics fans would prefer to talk about the story rather than the controversy
Well, I joyfully await the day when I can have a story with no controversy.
Edited by Francesco Vanagolli on 29 April 2011 at 9:00am
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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Mike O'Brien: "Why, so you can run and apologize again?" Nobody ran anywhere, Mike, and your fatally flawed assumption already has l-o-n-g grey whiskers. I was merely expressing my genuine surprise that you had not immediately rushed to voice your support for this latest development. Now, for the sake of all, let's drop this, before JB exiles us both to the wastelands of other, lesser websites.
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Adam Hutchinson
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Francesco I'm not sure what is served by directing that snark at the
series writer, who didn't write the story, via the John Byrne message
board.
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Brian Joseph Mayer
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"As for Superman's citizen status, I think he has none. Clark Kent is the American citizen (and no he wasn't an illegal immigrant at any point or any other such bullshit, since he was a baby that landed on Earth without any choice. If there is any legal precedent to that or any law that covers it, I'd by happy to know. " The 1965 immigration act.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Adam, I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I was just noticing how some writers should be the first ones to "give the good example" instead of complaining, and to share this with you all (Cornell's reaction, alongside others, was from bleedingcool).
I mean, I agree with him, the story should be the most important thing. But, unfortunately, it almost never happens, and he is one of those who have a part in this.
I edited the previous post, anyway, so I hope there will be no further problems.
Edited by Francesco Vanagolli on 29 April 2011 at 9:01am
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Tim O Neill
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Poopsie: "I was merely expressing my genuine surprise that you had not immediately rushed to voice your support for this latest development."
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No, you called him into a thread that he was not participating in. And that's a douche move. Whatever the reason he's not joining the thread is up to him. This Crisis on Infinite Threads is no fun. We don't need this, and we don't need you starting threads about locked topics. You should have done what Robert Bradley said last night - he hit the nail on the head. You're not dragging this into the next day, so knock it off!
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