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Dan Avenell
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Remember that one of the original points about Dr Doom is that he had diplomatic immunity. There are still rules of engagement. Super-heroes are (presumably) allowed to act as vigilantes in their own countries, to varying extents, but getting involved in international affairs like wars with Iraq etc is not encouraged... the grave threat of WW2 excepted (The Invaders) or when they do kinda meddle in international affairs oops.
Ultimately of course its a conceit of the genre. Like in a world full of stun guns the police still use bullets. That's unlikely.
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Emery Calame
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" But does that mean Frank won't necessarily strangle someone with their own entails? I'm not at liberty to talk about that. [laughs] I will say that if we decide to do that you're not going to see the panel. It will be implied.
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Implied entrail strangling ? Heh. Here's what flashed through my mind when I read that.
A shadow on wall shows two figures, one looming over the other with a knife in hand.Speech from off panel "N-No! Strangling me with...own intestines! Gggkh!"
Punisher: " It takes a lot of guts to deal dope in this neighborhood. Just enough guts to die."
Edited by Emery Calame on 04 May 2011 at 6:28am
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Kip Lewis
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When was the story written that the original Human Torch killed Hitler?
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Garry Porter II
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QUOTE:
| Superman move the moon out of orbit with his bare hands | | Oh Garry, that's nothing. Superboy once towed a whole string of planets. 
** Oh man, that's priceless. lol. This image makes my day and is symptomatic of what I think DC wants to get back to with its characters.
Superboy looks like he is pulling on a giant necklace.
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Dan Avenell
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I like the hurts-if-you-think-about-it 'One day, in deep space.'
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Glen Keith
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"In one of his earliest ACTION or SUPERMAN appearances, Superman went to war, beat up and arrested both Hitler and Stalin, putting an end to the European portion of WWII and Stalin's contribution to the Cold War in a single issue."
Actually, it was a two page story in LOOK magazine, from 1940, and it perfectly illustrates our point. Crazy coloring, though;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/47477023/Superman-captures-Hitler- Stalin-Look-magazine
Sorry, tried twice to create a hyperlink for this, but couldn't get it to work!
Edited by Glen Keith on 04 May 2011 at 2:32pm
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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Damnit, Glen, ya beat me to it! I gotta practice my typing...
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Andrew Hess
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I swear I've seen a colored version of that Look story...maybe I was dreaming in color.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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I'm pretty sure there is a longer, slightly different version from the comic books themselves that includes Clark Kent travelling over as a war correspondent and sneaking to the front wearing a uniform. It also gives "Hitler and Stalin" name changes and has a different ending. That version is in colour. But as a 2-page story it's an even better example of why there were so many rules to prevent superheroes making actual changes.
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Glen Keith
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You know, mulling this over a bit, it struck me that it should be very unlikely for wars to occur in either the DC or Marvel universes. The DC universe has so many heroes with off the chart power levels, such as Superman Green Lantern and the Spectre, that normal human combat should really be almost impossible to engage in. Marvel has a different problem, they have so many super geniuses, such as Reed Richard, Tony Stark and even Doctor Doom, that most of the reasons for waging war could probably be eliminated.
I mean, if Tony Stark can build a miniaturized arc reactor in a cave, from scraps*, shouldn’t he be able to come up with a solution our energy troubles on his lunch break?
But then again, maybe these are the things best not spoken!
*Or if that’s too Hollywood, how about the fact that Iron Man and Thor built an engine to re-energize the power-providing rings of Arkon’s world in the time it took for the rest of the Avengers to take out his army! Seriously, why would the Marvel universe need coal, gas or nuclear?
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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"Seriously, why would the Marvel universe need coal, gas or nuclear? " Dude, because Tony Stark and Reed Richards both own stocks in oil and coal companies. If they supply the entire world's energy demand off that suitcase fusion reactor they cobbled together from a Nintendo gaming system and a coffe maker after 3 bottles of tequila at the weekly poker game, what will that do to the world economy? And besides, that thing makes damn great coffee.
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Kirk Campbell
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For what it's worth, it appears DC no longer has interest in pursuing the story, and still considers Superman American: http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/luffycapri/news/?a=36606 I wonder if Time-Warner got involved at all and put a nix on this.
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