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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 April 2011 at 8:39pm | IP Logged | 1
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I don't see why this approach wouldn't have/could still work. Banner has been the victim for so long, and the unimaginative writers today seem unable to give Banner his due unless Banner is a "merged" Hulk or the Intelligent Hulk. I like the idea of Banner purposely transforming himself, and in control of the monster even if he has a tendancy to be violent/crude/disgruntled/misanthropic as the Hulk. And the reason I love it is because that's what I wanted to be able to do as a kid. I never thought of the television series Hulk as seperate from Banner, or a victim, as Bill Bixby's moral/ethical sense always propelled the television Hulk. Thus, this whole "Banner as Hulk's bitch" routine that became the standard just meant to us (kids) that Banner in the comics was to be ignored completely. Which he essentially was for most of two decades. The point is: Banner controlling the transformation is what I would have done. If you gave me (a kid) a machine to bombard myself with Gamma Rays so I could punch a bully's head off, I'd have done it.
Edited by Chad Carter on 04 April 2011 at 8:40pm
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Francesco Vanagolli Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 June 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 3130
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 1:03am | IP Logged | 2
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Next from Marvel:
Hulk forever
By John Byrne!!!
C'mon, let me dream a litte.
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Sam Karns Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7624
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 10:54am | IP Logged | 3
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Well said, Chad. I'm with you there, I find the Hulk more interesting when Banner is willing to be that and show some heroism. You are right, as for me, when I was a kid I wish there was a machine that could make me the Hulk. Remember the Hulk vest that one would have to pump it and formed plastic muscles? I think the tv series idea is played to death and is boring. Also I think the Hulk is more interesting when banner is in control and is not talking like an idiot and talk in third person.
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 4
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By the way, I wonder if JB would have brought back the Kirby Hulk's hairy arms. As usual, Kirby came up with a cool misanthropic antihero with hairy arms long before Wolverine was a splat in any fanboy's jeans.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 11:46am | IP Logged | 5
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Joel Tesch wrote:
Interesting that you bring up Al's detractors on the artistic side. I never really understood that. I thought he was a fine artist. |
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I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I can't stand his art. When I'd see a title with him as artist, it was the quickest way to get me to drop a title.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 31179
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 6
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The Hulk only has four fingers in that pin-up. Five toes, tho.
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Martin Jansson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 83
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 12:21pm | IP Logged | 7
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After this, I read JBs HULK with new eyes. I reread it last weekend. I never did read what happened just after JB left. All I can think about now, is what could have been.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | 8
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Hulk going into that machine looks strange. He's been drawn straight on, as if we're seeing him directly from the side. The machine has some pretty strong foreshortening going on. The Hulk and table he's on don't seem to match the machine.
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 1602
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 1:42pm | IP Logged | 9
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"Hulk Forever" by John Byrne... Now we are talking!!
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Michael Andrew Gonoude Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 10
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Chad, with writer/editor Roy Thomas's blessing, Rich Buckler brought back the hairy-armed, hairy-chested Hulk in 1974:
| , but I don't think he's been seen since. Brian, in the early days of mighty Marvel, when the King seemed to be drawing virtually EVERY feckin' book they published, Jack often was chided in letters' pages for not being able to keep straight how many fingers and toes the Hulk and the Thing had on each hand and foot. Stan, similarly overworked, had an equally difficult time when it came to editing - he confessed he couldn't remember, either. |
Edited by Michael Andrew Gonoude on 05 April 2011 at 5:58pm
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 6:21pm | IP Logged | 11
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http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/02/16/a-year-o f- cool-comic-book-moments-day-47/ --- I remember reading that story as a kid! The knockout punch is impressive, and was made acceptable to my young eyes by the following panels showing Iron Man's collapse.
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 April 2011 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 12
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Fixed Wallace's link
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