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Lance Hill Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 3:20pm | IP Logged | 1
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Stan and Steve stumbled slightly, coming out of the gate, by having Spider-Man battle aliens in his second issue. |
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Ditko has gone on record to say that the space shuttle story from the FIRST was too far removed from a teenager's world, like a high school quarterback playing in the Super Bowl (or something to that effect). I imagine that this is also why he decided to make the Green Goblin a man in a costume rather than the creature woken from a sarcophagus in Stan's original plot.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 3:27pm | IP Logged | 2
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That Mercury-style capsule presents all kinds of problems for people who can't simply go with the flow, and accept that Stan and Steve were making it up as they went along. The city in which Spider-Man lives is not clearly identified as New York until the second story of the second issue, and before that it could be anywhere -- including, apparently, Florida! Or, at least, like the FF's "Central City", some imaginary place where there could be a rocket launching facility on the outskirts of town!Not a terribly big place, either -- Peter went to "Midtown High". (And there's no such school in Manhattan. Of course, by the time he first battled Electro, Parker wasn't living in Manhattan, he was in Queens. And so were the offices of Jonah's publishing operation!)
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Ed Deans Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 July 2007 Location: United States Posts: 763
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | 3
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I was mention Lee/Ditko addressed this in the early Amazing issues. Has the issue in question been identified? I'd like to read it. I've only read through the Lizard's debut. Those first seven Spider- Man tales really live up to the name "Amazing."
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | 4
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Ed, it was in ASM #18.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 5:58am | IP Logged | 5
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Here's the pertinent scene:Now, can we all please agree that Stan and Steve addressed and disposed of this question DECADES ago, and stop beating this dead horse?
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 7:36am | IP Logged | 6
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That probably won't happen until the thread gets locked!
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 7:59am | IP Logged | 7
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So much to love in those few panels! Comicbook making at its pinnacle. I particularly love how in the second panel as Spider-Man hits the wall, Stan's dialogue show the notion of selling the web-fluid simultaneously hit him too.
AMAZING!
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 8
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Now, can we all please agree that Stan and Steve addressed and disposed of this question DECADES ago, and stop beating this dead horse? --- That probably won't happen until the thread gets locked! --- *click*
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Ray Brady Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 9:04am | IP Logged | 9
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Well, he does say he ought to be able to figure out how to make a permanent version. Seeing as how Stan and Steve raised the possibility, it's a fair question to wonder why he never followed through.
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Brad Brickley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 9:37am | IP Logged | 10
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Ray Brady wrote:
Well, he does say he ought to be able to figure out how to make a permanent version. Seeing as how Stan and Steve raised the possibility, it's a fair question to wonder why he never followed through |
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Also answered on this page, I think it wasn't followed through because our Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man was busy fighting crime!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 January 2011 at 9:43am | IP Logged | 11
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This is like a discussion of the Second Amendment, where some people read only the parts they want to read.Yeah --- this thread is done.
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