Posted: 24 November 2010 at 10:38am | IP Logged | 3
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Interesting thread. Lots of different opinions. One thing stuck out for me:Dan A.'s thought about a test struck me, because it's kind of what I was talking about earlier. Dan suggested that a teacher might give comics to his/her students to test their enjoyment of different eras of comics. While I understand what Dan was getting at, I had to wonder what teachers would have made of that suggestion in the 50s, 60s or even the 70s — during that "more innocent" era. Anyone old enough to remember would probably agree that teachers of that era were resolutely in the "comic book rounding up" business, not the comic book handing out one. Comics of that era were contraband in schools. They were "junk" at best, and "dangerous" at worst — and they certainly weren't for the classroom. At least, not to hear most teachers tell it. Today, someone mentions handing out some of those very same comics in school, and you get responses from very reasonable adults — good, solid citizens — who say they've happily done so, and no one blinks. Not even in a forum populated by more than a few people who wish we could return to that more innocent era. The only problem people seem to have is that they can't hand out comics created "these days" because they're all inappropriate. But when were they not? Am I totally wrong about this? Because either our parents and teachers were totally wrong, or comics have always had an element of the inappropriate. Famously so! Yes, what's inappropriate now isn't what it was then — and that's true of everything. Some of us act as if we're talking about Mr. Rogers or Pat The Bunny here, but we're not. In the light of nostalgia, we look back and say "oh, for the days when you could hand out comics in schools." But that day never existed. You could certainly make the case that back in the day, you could hand a kid a Superman comic without reading it first because you knew it would be free of sex, blood, and bad language. But that hasn't been true for decades — and there has virtually never been a time when you could hand out comic books in schools without being accused of endorsing inappropriate material. Imagine handing out Action Comics #593 today — an issue written and drawn 25 years ago by an artist you know to be a respectful, all-ages creator — one of the great superhero guys of all time. An issue you can honestly argue features material that, if objectionable at all, is so only in the mind of the beholder. You'd be fired. Guaranteed. Want to hand out the Mad Magazine that parodies Star Wars in 1978? Better read it first, because the mention of C3PO as a "fag robot" is going to cause a stir. How about Thor in the 60s? Hand a few of those issues to kids in the Bible Belt and see how their parents feel about a superhero named after (and embracing the mythology of) a pagan god. I mentioned Phoenix on that X-Men cover as something that might be objectionable... how about Wonder Woman in bondage on not just some, but MOST covers back in the day? Would any teacher here hand out horror comics of the 50s without reading them first? The point is often made that we have to put things in historical context. In historical context, all of this material was considered to be inappropriate. That element has always been there, and it's there today. I am, most certainly, cherry picking examples to make a point. So is anyone else who is making the point that comics today are immoral and disrespectful. Some are. So were some of the ones you grew up with.
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