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Mark Haslett
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What a loon. Making Mike Zeck trace his layouts? Why, because Shooter's old
Legion of Superhero layouts showed such promise?

Those Secret Wars days must have been strange days indeed. The "Secret
War" was in his head.

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A lot of it was Zeck being forced to trace Shooter's layouts.

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His ego was such that only HE could write it, he hand picked Zeck for pencils, ( and IIRC removed Zeck for CAPTAIN AMERICA so that he could do it) then made Zeck follow his layouts? WTF? If you want Zeck 9 or Byrne, or Simonson, or Perez, or JRjr, or etc...) then use their talents. Don't pigeonhole them into your own vision. Jesus, it ain't rocket science...

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"A lot of it was Zeck being forced to trace Shooter's
layouts."

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What a crying shame and missed opportunity.

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JB: I sometimes wonder what SWI would have looked like if it had pure,
unadulterated Zeck art. THAT would have been SOMETHING!!
 
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It sure would have.  The mind boggles! 
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Jay Famous
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If you want Zeck 9 or Byrne, or Simonson,

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I know this was just a typo, but doesn't "Zeck 9" sound like one Hell of an assault rifle?
Anyway, knowing that Zeck was restricted to pre-existing layouts does make me wonder how intense SECRET WARS could have looked. There's a guy who never got enough work even when he was on a monthly book. If I had my way Zeck would be doing a Spider-Man book chained to his drawing board until the end of time.
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SECRET WARS doesn't make anysense.
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Dan Avenell
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I never understood why it was plural.
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Rick Whiting
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I find the thinking behind releasing the sequel to Superman: Earth One to be a little short-sighted and quick out of the gate. While it has topped the charts as far as Diamond is concerned, has it actually accomplished in bringing in "new readers" that weren't otherwise reading comics, Superman or otherwise? How much of the sales is that young adult market the book was supposed to be tailored to meet? Does it have any kind of shelf-life that makes it worthwhile to keep in print? Will the sales still be strong at bookstores next week? If it's only to comic readers, there's no reason to expect that the second volume will not follow the same significant drop in sales that already exists between first and second issues.

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Ed, that is an excellent point. Here's something else to think about. According to the latest sales figures, 16,000 copies of Superman:Earth One were sold last month, which isn't a whole lot of copies (even with the $19.95 price tag). Maybe the reason why this book is a "hit" is because hardly anybody ordered the damn thing.

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Stephen Churay
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Superman: Earth One went to a second printing so it's a hit. How
many copies make up the first printing, I have no idea.
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Marc M. Woolman
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I have no opinion on JMS' Earth One, (I haven't even looked at it) but the article I read said it is a New York Times #1 Best Seller. I'd assume Diamond doesn't track those numbers.


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Rick Whiting
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Marc, do you have a link to that article?
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Thomas Moudry
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I think the Superman: Earth One sequel announcement is just odd; I seem to
recall the announcement of the first book stating that it would be a series of
graphic novels. Announcing the sequel seems a touch redundant: "Hey, we're
going to do what we said we'd do!"
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