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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6427
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Posted: 03 November 2010 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 1
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What is the age range of the hypothetical digital comic book audience? The current comic industry has totally turned its back on young readers, but that's where the gold mine is. Is the digital comic book a way to reach out to young readers or another way to leave them behind?
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17699
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Posted: 03 November 2010 at 7:38pm | IP Logged | 2
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If I had my way...MARVEL The Avengers (GiAnt-Man, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the Wasp) Black Panther Captain America and the Falcon Fantastic Four Hulk and the Defenders Iron Man Marvel Team-Up (MU team-ups) Power Man & Iron Fist She-Hulk Spider-Girl (Futureverse books) Spider-Man Thor What If...? X-Men: The Strangest Teens of All (the original team) X-Men (the Giant-Size team minus the original team members) DC Action Comics (Jimmy Olsen, Guardian, The Newsboy Legion, etc.) Batman & Robin Batman & the Outsiders Brave & the Bold (DCU team-ups) Detective Comics (Blue Beetle, The Question, Martian Manhunter, etc.) The Flash Green Lantern Jack Kirby's Fourth World Justice League of America (Aquaman, Black Canary, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter) Strange Adventures (The Atom, The Creeper, the Demon, Dial "H" for Hero, the Doom Patrol, Metamorpho, Plastic Man, etc.) Shazam! Static Superman Teen Titans (rotating team of Aqualad, Beast Boy, Kid Flash, Robin, Speedy, Starfire, Wonder Girl, and the Wonder Twins) Wonder Woman
Edited by Wallace Sellars on 03 November 2010 at 7:40pm
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Brian Joseph Mayer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 December 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1135
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Posted: 03 November 2010 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | 3
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Anyone else still curious what Brian Joseph Mayer does for a living?
I'm still curious myself!
You out there, Brian Joseph Mayer? :) --- Flavio: I am with Nathan. --- Oh well... Some things best remain a mystery! :) ___ Sorry, I missed you asking. In terms of my day job, I am in organizational development. I am also an adjunct professor for a local university at night. Here is a link to my website. http://learnatpds.iowa.gov/about_us/pdsteam.html I used to be surrounded by a team until budgetary cutbacks hit us hard. So now I am an army of one responsible for all training and OD initiatives for all departments in the entire State of Iowa. What else would you like to know?
Edited by Brian Joseph Mayer on 03 November 2010 at 8:54pm
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Brad Krawchuk Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 June 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5819
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Posted: 03 November 2010 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | 4
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What else would you like to know?
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What's Iowa like? Can I borrow twenty bucks? Do you like spaghetti and meatballs? Man, this is one heck of an open ended question. You got a few hours to answer a few hundred questions? If we're all gonna jump in and grill you, we may as well be thorough. Okay, let's go...
When's the last time you had a prostate exam? What college did you graduate from? Would you please pass the pepper? What happens when people die? Do you have a beard? What's in a hot dog? How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
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Bill Mimbu Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 April 2008 Location: United States Posts: 7368
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Posted: 03 November 2010 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | 5
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Great. Now you guys have got me looking through Tom's Tweets (Blocked at work also): If I don't do something at my job, I get in trouble. Why is it OK for writers and/or artists to turn in works weeks late, thus delaying comics, with seemingly no repercussions? Are there repercussions? (I don't mean to be rude, I'm honestly curious) It's not all right, and there are consequences, but the thing you need to keep in mind is that, as a field of entertainment, comics is a meritocracy, and creators aren't created equal. Same as in the world of sports or in the worlds of television or movies or music. Certain people tap into the zeitgeist and can motivate a reaction from a large number of people that equates to dollars. And so, those people are more desirable, due to this very fact. Consequently, those people have more latitude to behave badly, because their overall popularity and draw power empowers them in a maner that isn't easy to replicate in others. While I'd assume you're skilled at your job, whatever it may be, you're not so specifically skilled that your presence doesn't represnet a significant increase in profits. You're not indispensible--you can be replaced, more or less. But in the worlds of entertainment, that's not really the case. [Link] Huh. So, the Hollywood mentality has taken over...
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Joe S. Walker Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 606
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 4:28am | IP Logged | 6
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Admitting that your most valued people have licence to behave badly is a pretty good way to make bad behaviour standard.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 133326
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 5:18am | IP Logged | 7
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…comics is a meritocracy…•• He must have been given one of those desk calendars that teaches a new word every day. Of course, it's not the best idea to base a whole business plan on one of them!
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Ian M. Palmer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 1342
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 5:19am | IP Logged | 8
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It's not all right, and there are consequences, but the thing you need to keep in mind is that, as a field of entertainment, comics is a meritocracy, and creators aren't created equal. Same as in the world of sports or in the worlds of television or movies or music. Certain people tap into the zeitgeist and can motivate a reaction from a large number of people that equates to dollars. And so, those people are more desirable, due to this very fact. Consequently, those people have more latitude to behave badly, because their overall popularity and draw power empowers them in a maner that isn't easy to replicate in others. While I'd assume you're skilled at your job, whatever it may be, you're not so specifically skilled that your presence doesn't represnet a significant increase in profits. You're not indispensible--you can be replaced, more or less. But in the worlds of entertainment, that's not really the case. Which current superhero comics creators are so incredibly good that they can't be replaced? For that matter, which ones motivate a reaction from a large number of people that equates to dollars? Are we talking large, or large in the context of a withered industry? And what happens when they have to be replaced? Does the industry then just give up and die? "Guys, I have bad news. Millar's going to Hollywood. As you know, he's indispensable. We've had a good run these last seventy-odd years, but comics - sob - comics are over." The only creator I know of who came close to the above was Stan Lee, and my understanding is that he has actually been replaced. I don't think he worried much about "art". I don't think he was late much, either. "As a field of entertainment". Like TV, where, as I've said several times, episodes are shown AT THE SAME TIME EVERY WEEK! And creators who don't deliver are always, always, dispensable. Every time. All this talk about the entertainment industry and creating art makes me wonder whether these people give a shit about comics at all. "No, no, I don't make anything embarrassing like that. I'm in creative entertainment. I practically make movies." It's bullshit. I feel insulted that we're being fed this crap. IMP.
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Dan Avenell Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 March 2008 Posts: 1038
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 5:23am | IP Logged | 9
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Hugely successful sitcoms and dramas are made in Holllywood (or LA anyway too). Yet as far as I know, the stars and writers turn up on time, the shows don't get delayed. Letterman, Conan, etc go out without the show missing a night because the superstar creatives need more time.
The writing for trade experiment should be laid to rest. Every plot lasting at least six issues is one of the things that stopped me buying regular comics, and consequently no trades at all.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 5:58am | IP Logged | 10
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As I have said before, the thing that really ticks me off about this whole late=better mentality, and the idiots who fall for it, is that it spits upon every single PROFESSIONAL who ever turned in a job on time.
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Greg Woronchak Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 September 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1631
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 6:35am | IP Logged | 11
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and creators aren't created equal
Wow, doesn't that put down creators who aren't considered 'superstars'? Then again, I guess every field has certain employees treated better than others, while reliable, hard-working ones are ignored or disregarded.
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Ben Mcvay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 June 2006 Posts: 1414
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 6:35am | IP Logged | 12
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Brief novel related aside: The Hollywood guy that really drives me crazy is George RR Martin. He can't keep deadlines that he makes for himself for the Ice & Fire books, the latest of which is 5 years late. Meanwhile on his blog, he has all the time in the world to fly all over the world to watch his TV show based on the books get filmed, play with hawks, go on vacation, watch sports, etc. and once in a while write a chapter of the 5 year delayed book. Drives me crazy.
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