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Frank Gurstelle
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I don't know, am I?  I am not trying to do a "gotcha", here.  I just want to know if you were told to write that kind of story, or if you thought it was a good idea then and now don't.  I enjoyed your story, and think it isn't so much what story you tell, but how you tell it. 

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I'm kind of lost here. 

What about Superman #2 are you referring to?

(Again, sorry to interject myself - I would re-read the issue myself but I'm not at a place where I can readily do that).

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Simply put, Lex develops a supercomputer (the story is largely told from the point of view of an intimidated female programming genius) to try and discover the connection between Superman and Clark Kent, to help find a weakness in his foe. Eventually, presented with all kinds of circumstantial evidence, the computer comes out with the one logical conclusion - "CLARK KENT IS SUPERMAN". Uh oh, game up. Or so you'd think. Lex, however, isn't convinced - no man with Superman's power would ever waste his time pretending to be an ordinary human! It's a fascinating insight into the way Luthor thinks, and also sets precedent for Clark being able to protect his secret identity simply because no-one even thinks to look for one.

http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/108068/top_10_superman_stori es.html

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[X] Man of Steel

[ ] Birthright

[ ] Secret Origin

I think of the MOS version as "my Superman", even though I had been reading Superman's adventures for about twenty years when it came out. It really tried to push Superman forward while retaining what makes Superman unique.

IIRC, the story in Superman # 2 was more a commentary on Luthor's arrogance and attitudes than on the effectiveness of the Clark Kent disguise.

 

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Thanks for the info, Frank!

However, I think it's an apples and oranges argument.  Superman #2 was more about Lex and how he thinks than it was about why no one figures out Clark is really Superman. 

I would think you'd point out the 'vibrating face while in public' explanation (which I wasn't sure whether or not that was presented in Superman #2) than the deal about Lex finding out the secret, only to dismiss it.  Although to be fair, I don't recall who developed the 'vibrating face' bit. 



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I would think you'd point out the 'vibrating face while in public' explanation (which I wasn't sure whether or not that was presented in Superman #2) than the deal about Lex finding out the secret, only to dismiss it.

I had forgotten about that!

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Yeah again, I don't remember who developed that, where it was presented, etc.

But it's certainly an example of a story trying to explain why no one figures out Clark is Superman outside the explanation "they just don't".

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Didn't the face vibration thing originate with the Flash?

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It might have but it was also used for Superman.
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@ Adam,
Thanks for your response, I appreciate it. -it's all good-

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What planet is that? Who are those strangely dressed humans? What's that rocket for? Where's it going? Is there something inside it? Who are the people in the last panel? Are they Black?

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All of which is explained in the rest of the issue and the rest of the series.
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Thinking about how Marvel used to put the narrative banners across the top of the splash pages:
I used to love that stuff!

Perhaps you could say that it was unneeded, but it fit in with the reading experience. It kinda felt cool, like Green Lantern's oath: something that was familiar and memorable (memorizable?)

Remember the G.I.Joe cartoon in the 80's? The title sequence naration was SO cool! Like that.
"G.I.Joe is the code name for America's daring, highly trained special mission force. It's purpose, to yaddayadda" I still remeber the entire thing off by heart.

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