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Kirk Campbell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | 1
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That is essentially the reverse with me. When I see Gary Frank's Superman, I see Superman...because when I see Christopher Reeve, I see Superman. I suppose the only distracting part of it is when I see Christopher Reeve in his Superman I think of the Superman movies. ---------- I like Gary Frank's art, but IMO I see more Christopher Reeve in Byrne's "Man of Steel", and that art is much smoother on the eyes.
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | 2
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that thing on his chest is an EMBLEM, not a LOGO. Be that as it may, it's a licensed trademark. And that's probably where everyone gets confused. And I prefer Simon and Shuster, and JB's always treated that with nothing but respect.
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Norman Hardy Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | 3
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[X] Man of Steel [ ] Birthright [ ] Secret Origin
An easy choice for me because I grew up with Byrne's MoS. Also, quite honestly, it's the best of the three choices. Secret Origin was good, though. Birthright was an atrocity. I thought the art was decent, but the story was malodorous.
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | 4
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I think Leinil Yu is a really talented guy and I've enjoyed his work but I just thought he was wrong for Superman. I'd have preferred Chris Sprouse or Dave Gibbons.I'm a big fan of Gary Frank and think he's a great Superman artist. EXCEPT sometimes his characters' mouths look weird. Wassup with that?
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Kirk Campbell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 5
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I'm a big fan of Gary Frank and think he's a great Superman artist. EXCEPT sometimes his characters' mouths look weird. Wassup with that? ---------- See, I would have said his characters' EYES look weird.
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tho ha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | 6
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> I cannot make those two paragraphs part of the same thought process.
I like that 70's origin story probably due to nostalgia more than anything else, so I can see how my statements may not jibe. But that story was fairly short and succinct, and ignored many extraneous details like Krypto & Kandor and such (It did have Superboy making a giant cake, though). When Action 500 came along and put everything into one story, it did become too convoluted.
> It made even LESS sense considering two midwest general store owners would have no idea to raise Clark as a Kryptonian, even if they tried to raise him 'differently'.
But back then, Superman had total recall and actually remembered his time on Krypton. (Or did he use a memory retrieval machine for that? Maybe I don't like that version as much now that I remember more about it :)
Edited by tho ha on 04 October 2010 at 4:14pm
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Kirk Campbell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 7
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But back then, Superman had total recall and actually remembered his time on Krypton. (Or did he use a memory retrieval machine for that? Maybe I don't like that version as much now that I remember more about it :) ---------- I don't know about a 'memory retrieval machine'. I think it was just retconned that Kal-El was much older than an infant and thus remembered more of his Kryptonian upbringing. But even at 2-4 years of age (assuming in the Silver/Bronze Ages that's how old he was when he came to Earth), he's still going to remember more of his human upbringing than his Kryptonian upbringing, and thus identify himself more as human than Kryptonian. Logically speaking, anyway.
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Brian Rhodes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | 8
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[X] Man of Steel [ ] Birthright [ ] Secret Origin In fairness, I haven't read Secret Origin. I read Birthright, but don't really remember much about it. My interest in Superman varies. I liked the character enough on Superfriends and reruns of the 50's TV series when I was very young. I was about 9 yrs old when SUPERMAN hit theaters. Loved it. Couldn't wait for II. I even liked III. IV, not so much. But even through all of this, I didn't read Superman comics much. I had (and have) the two Superman/Spider-Man Treasuries, had a book-and-record (the Silver Bullets...remember that??) and maybe 2 or 3 other comics. Man of Steel made me actually read Superman comics and really like the character. I kept reading until JB left the titles. Even then, I checked out the occasional comic. Collected the Death of Superman series...which, to me, was also pretty much the "death" of the "Man of Steel" era Superman. I'm still interested enough in the character to check out the occasional issue or trade (hence my reading of Birthright). But...the farther we get away from what JB did in Man of Steel, the less interested I am.
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Monte Gruhlke Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | 9
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I liked the original Siegal/Schuster origin, but when it comes to revamp, I'm totally onboard with Man of Steel.
Birthright? Secret Origin? Needless Elseworlds-style musings.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | 10
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Man of Steel Period.
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Lars Sandmark Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | 11
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Monte and Brian, well said!Adam wrote: "Lots of opinion stated as fact in Lars' post." That's YOUR opinion. ;) (in my defence, I DID throw in an imo.)
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Michael Heide Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 04 October 2010 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | 12
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Isn't this whole thread about our respective opinion?
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