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Steve Adelson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1206
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 9:36am | IP Logged | 1
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Exactly why I would never by a sealed copy, Fred. In fact, it's a great argument why CGC should sell for less than an unsealed copy. You're taking a risk of intentional or unintentional overgrading!
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Brian Joseph Mayer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 December 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1135
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:10am | IP Logged | 2
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I disagree, but then I don't see it as being much different than any insurance appriasal if you are buying something of value. They gaurantee a certain condition at the point it is sealed. Once opened, any number of things could happen that could alter the condition. Stan could sneeze while signing. Coffee could spill. Etc. Charging to slab based on the value also makes sense because if something happens to the item while it is in their care, they are pretty much screwed. So it essential becomes an insurance premium, for lack of a better comparison. Now, there is nothing that says the book needs to be reslabbed after signing. But, at some point in the future, someone could certainly have every right to question the authenticity of it being a "5.0" book.
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Steve Adelson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:15am | IP Logged | 3
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Someone should question it even more if it's slabbed.... But that's my opinion.
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Casey Sager Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 733
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 10:15am | IP Logged | 4
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Fred, Hi, the reason they can't guaranty that it'll grade the same condition is because once it's cracked out of the slab it's being handled. What if Stan caused a defect when it was being signed? I know it sounds crazy, but it's been known to happen. It would be shadier on their part IMHO it they COULD guaranty the same grade after getting signed. Casey
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17699
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:10am | IP Logged | 5
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I let my comics breathe.
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 4036
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 6
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Many would argue that Spider-Man died a long time ago Wallace.
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 11:25am | IP Logged | 7
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Ouch. $215 to open it for a signature and close it. All kidding aside about slabbed books, that is insane. I was thinking maybe 20-40 tops for such a service. What if you have Stan sign the outside of the plastic?
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | 8
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Yeah Paul. I am still very ok with having paid for the original service and when you (Or maybe another poster) had thrown out the signing idea, suggesting it would be $0-60, I thought it seemed a bit low. Though with it already being slabbed, a CGC person on site to certify that it was indeed signed, you'd expect that they'd also take care of the handling.... and $40-60 for 2 minutes' work blows my hourly fees away!
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Dave Pruitt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 1:05pm | IP Logged | 9
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Once someone writes their name on your comic, it's damaged. Even if that someone is Stan Lee. :)
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 10
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I think that I could live with that damage if I were able to say "hi" again and see him sign it.
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Steve Adelson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1206
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 11
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Had Stan sign my FF #5 years ago, and I treasure it even more because of it.
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Dave Pruitt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 12
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He's supposed to be in Detroit, something called Detroit Fan Fair, last weekend in October.
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