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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 8:38am | IP Logged | 1
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Same here! To me, the X-Men were the NEW X-Men. The original team belonged to a different geological era.
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 8:41am | IP Logged | 2
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JB, who came up with Jason Wyngarde? Mastermind was there from the start?
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:31am | IP Logged | 3
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LOVE it!! Nobody does a better X-Men than JB!!
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:40am | IP Logged | 4
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John Byrne wrote:
...When we're dealing with a character like Angel, it's sometimes surprising to realize he is the weak sister of the group... |
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I was always confused when I read the original X-Men comics by Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and others when Ice Man would be referred to as their weakest member in some of the stories. I always assumed this had to be an age thing: Bobby is the youngest, so he is considered the weakest. But, really, Angel could fly... and that was it! Sure, he could fly well, but Bobby could freeze Warren's wings and ground him.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:45am | IP Logged | 5
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JB, who came up with Jason Wyngarde? Mastermind was there from the start?•• Mastermind was, of course, a member of the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, created by Stan and Jack. When Chris and I were shopping around for someone who could "turn" Phoenix, I suggested using him, and came up with the name Jason Wyngarde, and his "disguised" look, based on British actor Peter Wyngarde, who had, at that time, most recently played a character called Jason King. If you check Peter Wyngarde's IMDb page, you will find this mentioned among the trivia!
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Jeremiah Avery Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 6
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Was Sebastian Shaw a similar inspiration?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:48am | IP Logged | 7
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I came up with the look for each of the other members of the Hellfire Club, based on Robert Shaw, Orson Welles and Donald Sutherland. Chris came yp with their names.(I have sometimes wondered if his occasional confusion over whether or not "Jason Wyngarde" was Mastermind's real name was due to Chris not having named the character!)
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 12:21pm | IP Logged | 8
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This seems like a shoehorn to me, to put it mildly. --- Agreed, Mike!
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | 9
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Thanks. The Hellfire Club...what damage it did to my young, impressionable mind!
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Samuel P. Barden Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 7:20am | IP Logged | 10
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"When we're dealing with a character like Angel, it's sometimes surprising to realize he is the weak sister of the group."
Angel became my favorite instantly, tho I related to Cyclops more. As a kid I really didn't need him to be stronger than the other X-Men. Lee and Kirby just had him love his power, he understood that Jean loved Scott and they just had him do some cool stuff.
He wasn't as delicate is he would become in the 80s.
I love this sequence. Threatened with death, Angel fights on.
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Dwayne Gassmann Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 10:37am | IP Logged | 11
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Once again, I go away for a few days and I miss another awesome piece. Great work, JB.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 12
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That Hellfire Club storyline could easily have been adapted to the big screen.
-C!
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