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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 1
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is super-heroes drawn as body builders on steroids as many of them have been since the 90s. +++++I particularly recall a cover in which one of the Kubert Kidz swipes, I mean, pays homage to a Frazetta painting of a barbarian catching lighting with his sword on a mountaintop. The cover starred Cyclops, as beefy as the Frazetta guy and striking a similarly defiant pose. That was such a betrayal of the character and the book, that my stomach turned.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:04am | IP Logged | 2
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Look! The Weak Sister is charging at Juggernaut!•• Yes -- after Juggernaut is BLINDED by the Human Torch's flames!
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:10am | IP Logged | 3
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Sure. Still, I´d contend that the Beast is "inferior" to the Angel in terms of power. I mean, even though the Beast has some super-strength, he wasn´t the X-Men´s Thing (like Colossus, later). He was mostly used as an acrobat.
Edited by Flavio Sapha on 16 August 2010 at 10:12am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 4
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I´d contend that the Beast is "inferior" to the Angel in terms of power.•• Based on. . . ?
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:13am | IP Logged | 5
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Edited post above. Well, flying is more...useful...than jumping around.
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Stéphane Garrelie Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:16am | IP Logged | 6
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It depends on the situation.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 16 August 2010 at 10:24am
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:21am | IP Logged | 7
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Whenever I pick up one of the first issues of X-Men, I get the feeling that Stan and Jack struggled more with the question of putting this team´s powers to "work" than, say, the FF.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:28am | IP Logged | 8
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...even though the Beast has some super-strength, he wasn´t the X-Men´s Thing.
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True, he was not a kind of counterpart in that sense, nor was super-strength focused upon regularly his defining power. That said, one of the most stirring Kirby depictions for me has long been the Beast standing toe-to-toe with a ferocious male gorilla. Just imagine how strong a human must be to over-power a gorilla... whew! Hank McCoy may not have been remotely able to stand up to, say, the Hulk, but no push-over he!
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:37am | IP Logged | 9
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I used to think that becoming DEATH had been the best thing that ever happened to him... --- Yikes! I really disliked it when the Angel became one of Apocalypse´s Horsemen.I mean, even though the Beast has some super-strength, he wasn´t the X-Men´s Thing (like Colossus, later). He was mostly used as an acrobat. --- Not only was Hank agile and strong, but as his character developed, we learned that the bouncing Beast was also the "smartest" of the group!
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Sebastien Roy Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:38am | IP Logged | 10
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Another gorgeous piece...love it!
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Phil Kreisel Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:48am | IP Logged | 11
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I like the references early in this post about the "non-hairy" Beast, knowing what was meant by that. However, if you look at the art in the early X-Men issues, the Beast actually was "hairy" but in the human sense. I always thought that image was unique in comparison to super heroes of the day (e.g. Superman in the 50's and 60's had no chest hair).
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:54am | IP Logged | 12
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I guess "non-FURRY" would have been more apropos...
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