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Jim Muir
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Lengthy but fascinating interview with Alan Moore regarding Watchmen over on Bleeding Cool.

I think he makes a lot of valid points about the industry, but boy, is he cranky...

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Just reading it. One particular gem is the bit where he says he told Dave Gibbons, apparently in all seriousness, that they'd be OK over the Watchmen film as long as Gibbons phoned up and thanked him when his share of the film money came through.
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He makes a lot of assumptions in that interview.
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Let me get this straight: Alan Moore thinks Dave Gibbons owes him thanks for the money he would make of the film?
Unless Alan Moore offered Gibbons his own share of the money, I think Gibbons owes nothing to Moore. Gibbons gets money for his -considerable- share of the work involved in making the comics...
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Quite. Moore ought to get down on his hands and knees and thank Gibbons for his share of the work.
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<<Unless Alan Moore offered Gibbons his own share of the money I think Gibbons owes nothing to Moore>>

Moore has always maintained that his share of the profits go to Dave Gibbons.

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Yeah, Moore says in the article all he (Moore) wanted from
Gibbons was thanks for *Moore's* share of the movie money.
I thought that was pretty clear.
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I think that makes it worse, actually. It's treating his collaborators as if they should be grateful for his charity.
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Hm, it is clear when one reads it carefully and not on the fly, like I did. Sorry about that...
I don't think he is making a lot of sense, though. They offered him 2mil AND the rights to Watchmen back and he said no to both? Why?!? Also, Moore actually thinks that Watchmen is the only worthwhile property of Warner, at least in the caliber of Marvel's properties?
Maybe I am having some reading comprehension problems...
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What... Gibbons shouldn't be grateful for receiving all Moores profits?
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"What... Gibbons shouldn't be grateful for receiving all Moores profits?"

Not particularly, no. This is presuming Gibbons receives his fair share anyway as accredited half-creator. It's not as if Moore is making up for his having been screwed in the past (is it?) If I was in that position I'd feel it was rather insulting, since the implication is that Moore's integrity is superior to other people's.
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Suppose I write something, B draws it and C letters it. Good or bad, industry mocking or no, it sells and someone wants to make it into a film. I think (never mind why, say its my collosal ego) that the film will be pants. Should I:

1) withhold my permission (if I can): (no film for anyone, B & C no royalties at all =  "Dog in the Manger".)

2) say go ahead and give my royalties to B&C (B & C gain extra 1/6th of royalties each = "Envy My Superior Integrity")

3) say go ahead, but pay only B&C's royalties (B&C neutral, film-makers save money, and hence gain = "Reward the shoddy film-makers at my own expense".)

4) say go ahead, pay everyone their royalties, but leave me alone, my work is the comic, yours is the film. (Take the money and run?)

5) Take it and give it to charity (How would you know I had unless = Boast About My Godlike Benevolence) or equivalent to 4).

So what should I do?  This isn't about is the work dreadful or has/hasn't crapped on the industry. What should I do about taking or not taking royalties to meet your "superior integrity" Joe?

What could Alan Moore have done not to deserve your scorn, if nothing, it's possible you're not in fact being very fair.

I'd honestly like to know so that if say the people who made Date Movie ever want to film a book I co-wrote, I'll know what to do.

Simon BJ (edited to set this as re: me to try to avoid : "but he basically just shouldn't be Alan Moore answers")



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