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Marcio Ferreira
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The world is full with teenagers, children and babies that are in desperate need of caring, love, support, affection and parenthood. If aliens, single men, single women, gays, poor, rich, I mean, anyone.
I am in favor of adoption, period.
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Steven Myers
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I was wondering what it would be like to adopt a gay couple...
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Marc Baptiste
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I'm so PRO adoption, that I am even okay (though not thrilled) with some states de facto limiting adoption to gay couples to older children and teens --- the unadoptables as they call them. Gay and lesbian couples, along with many straights have really stepped up to the plate in wanting to adopt needy children and teens as opposed to the highly coveted infants.
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Tony Midyett
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I'm sorry if this is OT, but it's a pet peeve of mine, and this thread has reminded me of it. It ticks me off that so many couples spend thousands of dollars and go through miscarriage after miscarriage trying to conceive a baby when there are zillions of orphans out there in need of parents. Burns my butt. Again, sorry.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 17 July 2010 at 6:44am | IP Logged | 5
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There is more than a degree of absurdity in the adoption system, too. I understand the need for concern, but when we think about the seemingly endless hoops willing couples are made to jump thru in order to adopt, in order to be "approved", in order to be judged "good parents", when this country is well stocked abused, neglected and even DEAD kids whose parents had to do nothing more complicated than having unprotected sex. . . Seems like priorities need adjusting, somewhere!
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John Byrne
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Yes. However, John 19:28-30.•• In contrast to Luke 21:8-32.
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Marc Foxx
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I'm reminded of a comment my father made when we were going through the process and all of the paperwork, the gist of which was "any idiot can have a kid (naturally)", to which I replied, "Well, not any idiot..."But yeah, you need a license to drive a car, but...
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Michael Penn
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John 19:28-30.•• In contrast to Luke 21:8-32. **** Until smothered by Mark 11:22.
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Bill Cox
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Getting back to the original assumption...its moot unless one can have a newborn take a blood test and the results come back 100% positive for homosexuality. I'm not a geneticist, but I have always believed that people are not outright born homosexual, but that certain people may genetically have a greater potential of being homosexual than another...and that its how they mentally process certain "life experiences" that triggers thier orientation. Could putting a potentially homosexual child with a homosexual couple create the conditions that would either trigger or not trigger the final sexual orientation of the child? Who knows.. |
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Here's the booklet from the Episcopal Church, by a theologian. It's a deep analysis of the Bible and Homosexuality.
http://www.integrityusa.org/PrintMaterials/TheBibleAndHomose xuality2008.pdf
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John Byrne
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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.---Leviticus 20:13 (King James version) People can dance around as much as they like, but there is no rational way to get past that fact that this verse condemns homosexuality, and prescribes DEATH for those who practice it. And, as noted, Jesus endorsed this position when he said For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. (Matthew 5:18)
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John Byrne
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Could putting a potentially homosexual child with a homosexual couple create the conditions that would either trigger or not trigger the final sexual orientation of the child? Who knows..•• There's no such thing as a "potentially" homosexual child. That's like saying a "potentially" Chinese child. Homosexuality is in the genes. It is not something that is "triggered", tho in our still stupid and still repressive society, it is often something that has to be RECOGNIZED. A Gay child having Gay adoptive parents would get over that particular hurdle a lot more easily than do many Gay children in otherwise Straight households.
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