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Stephen Robinson
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God, those covers look like fun. It's a form of pop-art that we've lost. Whenever I have this conversation with many fans, it's like pointing out that once there was vanilla and chocolate ice cream but now there's just chocolate ice cream and their response is, "Don't you like chocolate ice cream?" So much lost.
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Joe Zhang
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| Posted: 30 June 2010 at 8:34am | IP Logged | 2
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Yup, Newsarama credits Jim Lee with designing the new costume.
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Flavio Sapha
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I wish I lived in the alternate Earth in which Jim Lee went on to become a doctor.
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Robert Bradley
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| Posted: 30 June 2010 at 8:45am | IP Logged | 4
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Jim Lee designs were considered pretty hot in the early 90s. (pssst! DC! We're not in the early 90s anymore!)
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Adam Hutchinson
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I like Jim Lee's art. Not sure about his design in this case though.
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Don Zomberg
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I'm sure Wonder Woman will find it much easier to fight in a jacket, though.
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Joe Zhang
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"I wish I lived in the alternate Earth in which Jim Lee went on to become a doctor.
We all have a pretty good idea what his patients would look like if he became a plastic surgeon !
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Moyer Hall
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Oh man this just makes me sad... I love Wonder Woman, and I do realize at some point she will (hopefully) got back to her traditional costume but this comment from JMS:
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"Also, virtually every woman I know tends to look at her current costume and say, "How does she fight in that thing without all her parts and pieces flying out?" She needs to look as strong, capable and resourceful as she is. As another female friend put it, "What woman wears the same outfit for sixty years without accessorizing?"
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Okay, WHICH WOMEN say this? And are they comic book readers? Do they read Wonder Woman? Do they question Superman or Batman's costumes? If they don't get it, nor accept the trappings and the things that make comic book superheroes, SUPERHEROES, then move on...do something else! |
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Matt Hawes
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NY Times article wrote:
| ... The new costume will almost certainly be better received than the curveball thrown Wonder Woman in 1968, when she lost her powers, dressed mod and practiced martial arts... |
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Why would it be better received today? It was stupid change then, it's stupid now.
The article wrote:
| ...It took the attention of no less than Gloria Steinem to protest the change, and to help get the Amazon back into her star-spangled duds. Ms. Steinem went on to use Wonder Woman, resplendent in red, white and blue, on the cover of the first issue of Ms. magazine in 1972... |
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Yes, it took America's most prominent feminist to get DC's head out of its ass and recognize that Wonder Woman's outfit and powers are both iconic and symobolic and should NOT be discarded.
The Arcticle wrote:
| ...That’s the kind of attention Mr. Straczynski thinks she deserves: “Wonder Woman is a strong, dynamic, vibrant character who should be selling in the top 20, and I’m going to do all I can to get her there"... |
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"The kind of attention she deserves"? Did Straczynski even get what Gloria Steinem was saying back when? She featured Wonder Woman in her classic outfit on the first "Ms" magazine specially because of the character's look and what she stands for.
Maybe Straczynski wants to get Steinem to say something again? Is that what he means by "attention"? He sure as hell didn't get what Steinem was saying back then about the character.
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Caleb M. Edmond
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I'm still hoping this "new" costume is either a joke or quickly goes the way of all her other "new and improved" costumes that she donned in the past.
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Robert Bradley
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"What woman wears the same outfit for sixty years without accessorizing?" Tiara. Check. Earrings. Check. Bracelets. Check. What was the purpose of that idiotic comment? She comes from a completely different society than we do. Why wouldn't she dress differently? And they're freakin' comic books! Since when does everything have to be 'realistic'? You want reality, go and read a newspaper!
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Matt Hawes
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Robert Bradley wrote:
| ... Jim Lee designs were considered pretty hot in the early 90s. (pssst! DC! We're not in the early 90s anymore!)... |
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Precisely!!
That outfit he designed looks straight out of 1991! Yuck!
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