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Stephen Churay
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It is not the CHARACTERS that should be "layered". A customershould be able to walk into a store and pick up ANY comic with BATMANin the title, and know that it will have the same kind of content asevery other comic with BATMAN in the title. S/he should not have toscan for "Mature Advisory" labels or the like.
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JB, you hit it on the head. I was more than a little shocked to find an Avengers book where the Hulk is tearing up Manhattan looking for Betty because he was horny.
Much like Greg and Brian at the top of this page, I've starting working on making my own comics.
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Rick Whiting
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It is not the CHARACTERS that should be "layered". A customer should be able to walk into a store and pick up ANY comic with BATMAN in the title, and know that it will have the same kind of content as every other comic with BATMAN in the title. S/he should not have to scan for "Mature Advisory" labels or the like. ________________________________ I agree. I have a question for you JB. Does anyone else currently working for the Big 2 feel the same way you do? If so, have they spoken out against this kind of crap? Have you heard any news about the parent companies of the Big 2 expressing concern about the content of the comics that their comic book companies are currently putting out?
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John Byrne
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Pretty much "no" on all counts.
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Mike Norris
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Out of curiousity how many comic book writers have made it "big" in Hollywood? A few have been attached to various adaptations of properties originating in comics, but have any done any non-comics related work of note? I know Gerry Conway wound up working on Law and Order. Anyone else?
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Peter Martin
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Jeph Loeb springs to mind as someone who has done lots: Lost, Heroes, Teen Wolf, Commando, and then lots of comics-related TV. edited to add.... although he's really a filmwriter who then did comics and then also got into TV.
Edited by Peter Martin on 12 June 2010 at 3:16pm
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Jason Ditzel
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JB: You're right. I stand corrected. If it says Batman it's for all.
They market all kinds of Batman products to kids. DC should keep all Batman stories appropriate for the age that uses the products.
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Brad Krawchuk
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I said this before in another thread where age-appropriateness came up.
Recently the local professional football team banned tail gate parties, initiated more stringent bag checks to keep out outside liquor, imposed a two drink max when buying beer, got rid of the people going around selling beer in the stands so fans would have to get up to go to the vendor inside, and put more security and a greater police presence at all the games to get rid of rowdy drunk fans.
Why? Because, in the words of the team owner, they want the football club to be a family experience so the younger generation can become fans, because that's the only way they're going to grow their market. By appealing to kids when they're young, and making them fans for life.
Professional sports has gotten the idea, why can't COMIC BOOKS?
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Frank Carchia
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Great example, Brad. The people writing the majority of today's comics simply don't get that their job is not to produce (near) porn studded with offhand vulgarities and call that comic books. There are plenty of other appropriate media outlets from which to get your nudity and bad language. Just keep it out of all-ages comics. Is that so hard?
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Joe Zhang
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I tried one of Marvel's "Heroic Age" comics this week. If maturity also means having no fun, that comic was mature indeed.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 12 June 2010 at 6:41pm
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Joe Zhang
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"Out of curiousity how many comic book writers have made it "big" in Hollywood?"
There's Mark Millar. It's interesting how he uses comics as a mobile platform for his Hollywood ventures, instead of just a stepping stone.
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Frank Carchia
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Agreed about the Herioc age books, Joe. Begging the question: If the Heroic Age starts now, what the hell "age" has it been at Marvel (who publish, ya know, super-HERO comics) for the past decade?
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Chris Wood
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Agreed about the Herioc age books, Joe. Begging the question: If the Heroic Age starts now, what the hell "age" has it been at Marvel (who publish, ya know, super-HERO comics) for the past decade? ----- The Dark Age?
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