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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 133552
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 3:48am | IP Logged | 1
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I don't remember anything about that particular piece -- but, then, looking at it now, the drawing is so BAD I probably blanked it from my mind!
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 12767
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 4:12am | IP Logged | 2
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Sometimes, like this time, when JB comments that something he drew many years ago is unquestionably bad, well, that just proves to me that I know precious little about how to distinguish good from bad comicbook art!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 4:43am | IP Logged | 3
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Compare to THIS more recent variant on the same theme, Michael, to see what I'm talking about.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 6:42am | IP Logged | 4
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OK, first... the recent variant... wow! The shape, structure, and detail on the Beast's foot alone... wow!
Second, while I can at least judge (easily!) that the newer work in every single aspect is so comparatively excellent that the older is merely good (perhaps at best only fair?), to my non-professional eyes I still don't see the old drawing standing alone as out-and-out bad. I could conjecture what's objectively "wrong" with it, but... overall, it still looks good to me. I don't mean to say only that I like it, which I do, but that it seems to me to be good comicbook art.
Maybe the standards of the ordinary reader can't be as high as that of the artist? Don't give the fans what art they think they want to see?
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Tony Midyett Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 January 2010 Location: United States Posts: 2834
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 8:05am | IP Logged | 5
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The first JB drawing was brilliant, and the second version was even more brillianter. 'Nuff said.
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 9154
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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:24pm | IP Logged | 6
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Flipping through a box of old X-Men comics last night. Kitty sure had some odd costumes after JB left the book.
...they should have kept her in the school uniform!
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 9154
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | 7
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X-Men #100 (2000) had a number of multiple covers -- and Marvel did a fine job finding artists for the job! However, the final outcome was a bit of a head scratcher for me. Some of the artists drew "their" X-Men...
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | 8
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...and some did not...
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 7:29pm | IP Logged | 9
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My question for JB,
Did Marvel ask for the characters on your cover?
I very much like your drawing, but I would have loved to see you and JRJR draw your own teams.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 10
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I was strictly art robot on that job. They wanted a representation of people who had worked on the characters, but they told me who and what to draw. Struck me as a bit pointless, but I'd already agreed to do it.
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 31 May 2011 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | 11
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Missed opportunities drive me crazy.
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 June 2011 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | 12
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Here's the cover for an upcoming Star Wars collection... wonder if the artist was inspired by JB's FF poster?
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