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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 1
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Well, hang on, Al - now as a student of Malcolm X, I get the reason why "black" isn't the best word, the negative connections, etc, and the hyphenated-American status is reserved for they alone, but speaking practically, I've found "black" to be a commonly accepted term amongst my fellow brothers from the African continent.Out of respect, I go with what's appropriate and accepted, and while I totally agree with Malcolm X's thoughts on the subject, if "black" is still an ok term, I'm ok with it. Now - if it's not, I'm all ears. But as far as I knew, it's still an acceptable term. No?
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:13am | IP Logged | 2
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Black, yes. Black people, sure. Black folks? Why not.
But 'Blacks'? Always rubs me the wrong way.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 3
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Does "Whites" also rub you the wrong way?
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 4
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Yeah. As does "Reds"
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:32am | IP Logged | 5
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Hm. Interesting. I can see where you're coming from and will consider that in the future.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:37am | IP Logged | 6
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And thus do we continue to give power to words, and thru them to those who wish to hurt us.
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:52am | IP Logged | 7
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Also something I will consider.
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Randy Lahey Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:53am | IP Logged | 8
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Mike, what are your thoughts on the Nation of Islam?
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:59am | IP Logged | 9
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I think, like any religious organization, that there is the best of intentions in theory, and just disasterous corruption and failure at every level of reality.As a social organization, too. I like that there was something organized there to bring people together and give them a structure that might have been lacking in schools or due to economically devistated communities, but in reality, there's all sorts of ugly power plays and petty dictatorships and as an experiment, I call it a failure. Now, the Prince Hall Masons, on the other hand, is like NOI done right. But that's just my opinion.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | 10
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It's the "s". Denotes a grouping, a lumping, a dismissal as a whole, as it were.
At least that's the way I see it. Cooks are like that.
Edited by Al Cook on 26 May 2010 at 1:09pm
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | 11
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I don't think it has to be dismissive. I call blacks blacks without meaning anything negative. I also call whites whites, and I'm a whites myself.
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Jodi Moisan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | 12
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As a woman I have all sorts of problems with the Nation of Islam.
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