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James Malone
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Jason, your time line, dates or facts are a fantasy.
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Bill Mimbu
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Cover to S.W.O.R.D. #3...
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| Gillen's decision to turn Lockheed into a hard-drinking, sardonic, and highly-self sufficient character, in his own words, "[was] derived from a stroke of wild inspiration." |
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Kitty Pryde's pet dragon now swilling Jack Daniels... Why am I not surprised that this was green lighted by the-powers-that-be?
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James Malone
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Bob Harras became 1/8th editor in chief in 1994. He became sole editor in chief in 1995. Bankruptcy was filed in DECEMBER 1996... basically 1997 it was so late in the year. It emerged in 1998... close to 2 years later. Actually, kind of a long time in Chapter 11. Pereleman and Icahn were busy playing chicken with each other, and it allowed Toy Biz to sneak out the back door with Marvel in tow,
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Jeff W Williams
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Matthew, Marvel is profitable. They are extremely so. And not because of their film licensing money. Their publishing arm is profitable. Just because it doesn't sell comics in the numbers they were sold in 30 years ago does not mean they are failing, no matter how much some might like to believe so. Far from it.
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Jason Czeskleba
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Thanks for clarifying that, Zaki.
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James Malone
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Jeff, The problem is the steps publishing had to take to be profitable.... huge increases in cover prices. $2.25 in 2001 to $3.99 in 2009... do the math... sell less books at a higher price and you can hide your decline. 70% of income comes from licensing. Disney will capitalize on the licensing aspect.
Edited by James Malone on 08 February 2010 at 7:40pm
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Disney will capitalize on the licensing aspect.
You make that sound like a bad thing.
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James Johnson
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On the outside looking in:
After the crap Marvel has published over the last decade, I kinda wish we could go back to the Shooter Era. Yeah, as fans, we did know what was happening behind the scenes, but the quality of books (story and art) was top notch.
Hell, I'll take Dazzler, Rom and/or Micronauts over any of Marvel top-of-the-sellers.
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QUOTE:
Bob Harras became 1/8th editor in chief in 1994.He became sole editor in chief in 1995. Bankruptcy was filed in DECEMBER 1996... basically 1997 it was so late in the year. It emerged in 1998... close to 2 years later. Actually, kind of a long time in Chapter 11. Pereleman and Icahn were busy playing chicken with each other, and it allowed Toy Biz to sneak out the back door with Marvel in tow,
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Wasn't Toy Biz what got them in financial trouble to begin with? I thought it was that and not the publishing end. Wasn't Marvel still selling more comics in 1996 than under Quesada?
Whatever the case, I haven't bought a Marvel comic in a couple years. It's the characters for me. The integrity of the characters. Damaged too many of my favorites.
I'm not surprised he's lasted the decade, though. Whatver readers are left, Marvel is getting the clear majority of them. They've kicked DC's ass in the sales charts month after month after month. Marvel has slowed down the last year or two, but who hasn't? That's the economy.
Sins Past type storytelling, Cyclops forming hit squads storytelling, will never be for me, but it seems to work for a lot of readers.
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Hm....cover price increases.....
Amazing Spider-Man in eight year increments:
March 1963: issue 2 $0.12
March 1971: issue 94 $0.15 (+25%)
March 1979: issue 190 $0.35 (+133%)
March 1987: issue 286 $0.75 (+114%)
March 1995: issue 399 $1.50 (+100%)
March 2003: issue 49 $2.25 (+50%)
March 2010: issue ??? $3.99 (+77%)
Price increases have actually slowed over the more recent time spans.
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James Malone
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I think it was Fleer and Sky Box that got them into trouble. Toy Biz (run by Ike Perlmutter and Avi Arad) are what "saved" marvel.
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Brian Miller
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Surely Marvel trying their hand at distribution didn't help any, either.
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