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Michael Todd
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BTW in reference to the "Heroic Age" image, I wish that Marvel would restore the Beast to his original appearance, I'm sick of "Cat-Boy & Monkey-Boy".

Restore Dr. McCoy!


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Ok that's just weird! My post #666 was about the Beast. cue Twilight Zone theme
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How does Prison Gray Luthor count as getting it right the first time?

I guess I just ass-u-me'd. Maybe a white scientist smock thing? Anyone know?

 

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Chad, who is that guy in the red armor ?

Crimson Dynamo.

I think the current CD is just too generic. Looks like every other armor-y character these days. Kind of blobby instead of slick and stream-lined. Same problem with Iron Man, to me.

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Crimson Dynamo is a good pick. Once you start meddling with Armour types they too easily become generic, just as Chad says. Which reminds me of another character that was right in his first appearance but then turned into a 'could-be-anyone-mechanical-type:

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The Batman costume was there from the start.  Sure there are minor things that got worked out in just a couple of issues, but you can put up a panel from Detective 27 and from an issue today and most anyone would be able to identify both panels as Batman. 
I also think you need to cut the early artist in comics some slack, they were working the bugs out, getting a feel for the new format.
I think Captain Marvel got it right from the start. 
I also like Robin's costume from his early appearances too.  I like how when he first appeared his boots went just a tad higher than what they eventually settled at.  I thought that look was better.  Kind of liked the greenish cape too.  Not sure if that was the look or just odd coloring.
Superman was basically there too.  Tweaked the "S" and the boots, but again the main look was there.
Firestorm looked really cool from the start, the fire head thing is really neat. 
Hawkman is another that looked good out the gate.  JB draws a great Hawkman.
I think a lot of heroes looked good from the start because that's just how we're introduced to them.  Of course some look better later, Daredevil being the first that comes to mind.  I'm tired, better get to bed!
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you can put up a panel from Detective 27 and from an issue today and most anyone would be able to identify both panels as Batman.

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If you put a panel of the original Daredevil alongside the new Daredevil most anyone would be able to identify them as the same character. Ditto the original Spider-Man and the black Spider-Man. It doesn't mean that their costumes haven't changed.

The original Darevdevil you recognise as a different costume. As I see it, it changed in two ways: colour and chest symbol. The Bat Costume changed in colour and chest symbol and the cape changed, the cowl changed, the gloves changed, the belt changed.

I see what you're saying, in that they're all variants of the one costume, but I think this sums up what I'm trying to say:

 

edited to add: that is, they are different (albeit similar) 'looks'. If the same artist was to draw one comic where Batman changed from looking like the first figure above in one panel to the third figure above in the next panel, you would assume that either the artist had made a mistake or that he had changed costume.

In Generations did Batman have the same costume in the 30s as the 60s?



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If the gloves on the first figure in Peter's post were black, that would be my favorite of the bunch.
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oops, I am mistaken. I somehow missed it at first glance.

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That's because Thor is behind Iron Man .

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Peter, that's not Box's original color.
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Peter, that's not Box's original color.

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I know. The blue one was the original telepathically controlled one. The red one is the one Bochs 'phased into'. Did JB draw them any differently? I can't see it myself.

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How does Prison Gray Luthor count as getting it right the first time?

I guess I just ass-u-me'd. Maybe a white scientist smock thing? Anyone know?

First time Luthor

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