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Brian Kirk
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I'll do what I want with my comics (thankyouverymuch).
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Marc M. Woolman
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I have comics that are valuable to me. I enjoy re-reading them and look forward to sharing them with my kids. I keep them bagged and boarded, but anything that would prevent me from reading them again would render them useless and worthless, to me.
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Johan Vikberg
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Seems to me there really is no way to argue that the comic is more valuable/rare than the one-of-a-kind original art.
I don’t quite agree. The art may be ”rarer”, but it has always been unique, one of a kind, and it’s a straightforward situation that doesn’t lend itself to much romanticism. But a pristine copy of an old comic book is something rare that was once plentiful. This, I think, is what gets the emotions going, sets the mind thinking all kinds of thoughts, and makes people obsess about these things.
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Arc Carlton
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I have comics that are valuable to me. ______________________ So do I. But if I tried to sell them I wouldn't get much ...
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Marc M. Woolman
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I define a valuable comic as one that I would never try to sell. I don't care if I could get a thousand bucks or 20 cents for it. If I value it, I'm keeping it. If I want to sell it and some fool wants to pay me a lot of money for something I don't want, that's their prerogative.
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Phil Kreisel
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I've never understood the slab thing. I really like the digital option when Marvel went to DVD-Rom a couple of years ago - My wife bought me the Spiderman DVD set, and then I went and purchased the Avengers and the Cap America sets, even though I still the original issues of each of these series (the early issues). It's just more convenient to read a run every now and then on the computer rather than digging out the paper copies. Sometimes the reprint has its advantages. I remember going to the Lourve in Paris and seeing the Mona Lisa. However, it's slabbed and has security so that you can't get closer than 15 feet from it, and as such, you can't see any detail of the painting itself. At least with reproductions you can see the damn thing!
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John Byrne
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The art may be ”rarer”, but it has always been unique, one of a kind, and
it’s a straightforward situation that doesn’t lend itself to much
romanticism. But a pristine copy of an old comic book is something rare
that was once plentiful. •• Apparently you are unaware of how rare "pristine" examples of Golden and
SIlver Age art are -- and for the same reason the comics are rare. Most of
that stuff was destroyed. Deliberately. In any case, the fact remains: art (any art) has an intrinsic value. Mass
produced commodities do not, in whatever abundance, or lack thereof, they
are available. Your "logic" reminds me (yet again) of a TV movie from the Seventies.
Glenn Ford as a detective. He meets a man who is the ultimate collector,
and who has a room devoted to comic books. In the center of the room is
a shredder. "Here are the only two copies of the most valuable comic book
in the world," say the collector. He drops one in the shredder, and holds
up the other. "This is now the most valuable comic book in the world." KOJAK did a similar bit with stamps.
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John Byrne
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Part of what people are paying for when it comes to CGC is that for the
most part it's a universal grade arrived at by experts that everyone can
agree upon.•• Apparently this is some new usage of the word "everyone" with which I was
not previously familiar.
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Tim O Neill
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I don't use plastic bags. I read comic books when I eat and get buffalo wing sauce on them no matter how much I try not to.
It's about reading, not collecting.
Once I buy it, it's mine and I try not to treat it like a precious china doll. I write in the margins of books I like and dog ear the pages so I can go back to key passages. I can't write on a comic book, so the buffalo sauce will have to suffice.
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Brian Miller
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I can't write on a comic book... **************** Why not?
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Tim O Neill
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The margins typically aren't big enough. Books with just text seem to lend themselves to highlighting and margin scribbles better than books with images.
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Casey Sager
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I should have said that it's a grade most everyone can agree upon. If CGC assigns a specific grade to a book, it is mostly accepted as such in selling / buying circles. For those who care about such things, even a slight bump up or down in grade can mean the difference in hundreds or even thousands of dollars depending on the book.
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