I've read a LOT of books, from a LOT of different sources. You know who says Hitler was a Jew? Neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers.

In Europe, neo-nazis follow very strictly that the Jew is public enemy number one. It is therefore impossible for them that Hitler is a Jew. To me only a Nazi would be disgusted or even care about an error concerning races. You can point out that I was wrong, but your reaction about something that doesn't matter (a person's race) to normal people I find a little too much, I'm sorry.

"The person who said this to the class, was the teacher and he was also the headmaster of the school and he also was the author behind the books we learned from. Those books went to schools all over Sweden and they were checked by the authorities."

Sure. But as you yourself said, he didn't put that particular bit of information in the books, did he? Because if he did, he would nho longter be the writer of the educational books you used in class, nor would he be your teacher.

Historians of far greater standing have debunked that claim as nonsense,  IN PRINT!  What your teacher rants about in the classroom is just bunk. He didn't even have the balls to wirte about it in his own books. That should be all you need.

You were taught a lie, Lars. Deal with it.

But as you yourself said, he didn't put that particular bit of information in the books, did he?

No.

You were taught a lie, Lars. Deal with it.

I have dealt with worse lies from that person, so it's not a problem at all, and he was a former priest btw, but that particular lie makes no sense! So another theory I have is that he "was" a Jew at the time according to experts and the historians came up with the fact that he was not later.

"but that particular lie makes no sense"

Yes, it does. To Anti-semites! Because it places the guilt of the Holocaust not on "pure aryan christians" but on a "self-loathing Jew". That is what we've been trying to tell you. The lie makes perfect sense to a lot of European and Middle-eastern anti-semites. Not to Neo-Nazis, no, but honestly, they are not really the driving force of modern anti-semitism. The Neo-nazis are just a small bunch of ignorant thugs who'd hate anyone as long as it makes them feel that their failures are someone else's fault.  

Just the same as if everyone knew the true history of Spartans, we wouldn't be celebrating them in popular fiction as defenders of freedom, and worthy of admiration. Not if more people knew that the Spartans' entire economic and social system was based on barbaric slavery of their fellow Greeks. It would be like celebrating the Nazis as heroes, it just wouldn't be done.

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It's obvious you hate "300," Koroush, but your own bias is showing. Sparta and other Greek citystates (though not every one) fought to stay free from Persian rule. This is a fact. The Persians didn't invade Greece to spread peace and love. Whether the effort to defend themselves against the Persian Empire or any other Spartan achievement is worth admiring is a matter of opinion -- but in any event hardly akin to a sick celebration of Nazi "heroes."

And 300 is a story about whatever it's a story about (it's not wholly about individualists, because there's stuff about fellowship and loyalty, esprit de corps, there too), and not an attempt to prove that Persians are bad people. To the extent that the Persians represent anything in the story, they represent it for the story, not vice versa.

Just the same as if everyone knew the true history of Spartans, we wouldn't be celebrating them in popular fiction as defenders of freedom, and worthy of admiration. Not if more people knew that the Spartans' entire economic and social system was based on barbaric slavery of their fellow Greeks. It would be like celebrating the Nazis as heroes, it just wouldn't be done.

I think 300 would be exactly the same if everyone knew ancient Sparta intimately, because it's a story. It was thousands of years ago, and nobody cares. Much of Hollywood's output set in the present day is not much like real life, and nobody cares.

I doubt if many people in 300's audience, if they even connect pre-Common-Era Persia with modern Iran, perceive the people of the Iranian political entity or those of the Persian ethnic group in ways determined by the portrayal of ancient Persians in either the film or the comic.

Enlightened and educated by everything you've written, Koroush, I still think 300 is better than DKR2 and not as good as DKR or Sin City: I still see it just as I did before you wrote anything at all. It's irrelevant to my view of or (mostly) ignorance about Iran or Persians. Isn't it a relief to you that some of us are not corrupted by historically-inaccurate fiction?

IMP.

"Sparta and other Greek citystates (though not every one) fought to stay free from Persian rule."

That's all I said, and it remains a fact. The history is indeed quite complex, I've studied it for decades, and I've denied none of it, from either the Greek or Persian (or any other) side, nor have I -- unlike you -- offered any value judgments, except to say that likening the Spartans to the Nazis is a patently unsustainable and rather sick analogy.

The Persian were invading Greece to force cities unwilling to submit to their Imperial rule to do just that, and those Greeks repelled them. A fact. A stubborn thing, as John Adams noted. Although perhaps not as stubborn as bias.

" , but more akin to the Taliban fighting American troops in Iraq from fortified mountain positions"

Yeah, you can pretty much stop now.

Hitler wasn't a jew - jews aren't a "race", it's a belief, a religion which Hitler didn't subscribe to. (To put it mildly)
End of story.