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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Touching upon the seemingly eternal insistence of some folk that the
highlight color always represents a costume's true color, should we take it
that T'Challa was wearing his WHITE suit in this issue of AVENGERS?

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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 8:48am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

It looks like three good instances here.... Goliath has a medium blue,Hawkeye has a very dark blue... almost black... or maybe leather, andT'Challa has black. Although to me, the white highlights on T'Chllamakes me think shiny black
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When i first had that comic way back in the 1960's i took it for black with white highlights on his costume even if it was highlighted with blue i would still think black!
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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:15am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Is that Gene Colan's work? Panther's costume still looks black to me, even with the white highlights. I agree with Joel, it makes it look shinney black. Interestingly enough, we are haveing this debate in my Illustration class right now over an assignment I did of a Spider-man page. Many are insisting that the black is blue.   
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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:27am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Is that Gene Colan's work?

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John Buscema.

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I have always wondered about this myself but, I never assumed that the highlighted color was the color of the costume itself.  I never assumed that Superman's hair was blue even though the highlights were blue.  I always thought of it as a "sheen" - def: (1 a : a bright or shining condition : brightness b : a subdued glitter approaching but short of optical reflection c : a lustrous surface imparted to textiles through finishing processes or use of shiny yarns).
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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:42am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I have sometimes found myself wondering -- not seriously! -- if there is
some mutant gene that is lacking in some comicbook fans.

As a kid, I could look at, say, the Blackhawks, and know their uniforms were
black, not blue. I could then look at a picture of Superman and know that
his hair was not blue, despite the same color highlight the Blackhawks had
on their uniforms.

When Spider-Man came along, I knew his costume was red and black, as I
knew the X-Men's school uniforms were yellow and black. At the same
time, no matter how many blacks were added to the shadowing, I knew
Daredevil wore red.

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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I tend to think the people who go with highlight colors as the true color as the same people who frustrate me in saying that the Hulk and She-Hulk's hair are green and Superman's hair is blue, etc.



Frustrating because if you were to hold up the same piece of art to someone and it were uncolored, they should automatically come to the conclusion that it's black
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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 11:05am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Hulk's hair IS green. That's where the "mutant gene" kicks in -- being
able to tell when the highlight is the true color, and when it isn't.

Black Panther - highlight is not true color

Daredevil - highlight is true color

Spider-Man - highlight is not true color

Black Bolt - highlight is not true color

Superman's hair - highlight is not true color

Hulk's hair - highlight is true color


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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

There's sense in all this that really should be common.

A "black"-named character, ya know, what other color would he be?

A human character, unaltered in appearance by any circumstance, even if his hair has blue highlights, it's pretty plain his hair ain't blue -- shouldn't the Hulk obviously not fit that basic rule?

Given that rule, seeing Spider-Man appear far more black than blue, shouldn't the same rule clearly apply?

For him, for the X-Men, any character, no matter the black plus highlight combination. Unless there's a further clue in the name, and usually the clues aren't very hard to decipher. Daredevil, colored red -- "devil," red -- not only entirely appropriate but complementary colors in western culture for century upon century.

A kid just gets this, or should, because coloring is not a trick. Take the images for what they are, and you don't get hung up on coloring because you don't even have to think about it.



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A "black"-named character, ya know, what other color would he be?

Black Goliath?

My introduction to Spider-Man was via Ross Andru: definitely light blue.

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Posted: 08 November 2009 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Since the computer coloring era began all that wonderful blue hair has disappeared. I sure miss it .

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