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F. Ron Miller
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Well there's this guy. Dunno, something about the color scheme, the lightning motif and the dealios over the ears puts me in the mind of a DC hero, only I can't quite place it. Hmmmmm. It'll come to me.
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Rick Senger
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I could be wrong, but it appears to me that the Batman panels above mocking Spider-Man appear to be drawn by Andru / Esposito. Ironic if true, because those two would soon wind up being the regular artists together on... The Amazing Spider-Man.
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Eric Smearman
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Rick - you're not wrong.
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Robert LaGuardia
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Is Batman's boast true? I've always wondered who the first hero to swing on a flagpole was.
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Michael Heide
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How about "Buried Alien"?
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Jonathan Stover
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The Chameleon Boy 'breaking the fourth wall' panel occurred just after he'd imitated a giant spider. Not only is it sad, but I remember being really disturbed by it when I first read it (as a reprint) when I was seven or so. It completely threw me out of the story. Maybe I was just too sensitive... Cheers, Jon
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John Byrne
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Is Batman's boast true? I've always wondered who the first hero to swing on a flagpole was.•• What was particularly silly about that was that Batman wasn't much of a "swinger" before Spider-Man came along. Shot of Batman and Robin swinging over Gotham on their bat-ropes lived mostly on the covers, and inside we were more inclined to see them finishing their swings -- like by crashing thru a window -- than by actually traveling. Even the leaping and jumping that Batman is doing on that page wasn't all that common. When Batman traveled, he did it via Batmobile, or Batcopter, or Whirlybat.
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Rick Senger:
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| I could be wrong, but it appears to me that the Batman panels above mocking Spider-Man appear to be drawn by Andru / Esposito. Ironic if true, because those two would soon wind up being the regular artists together on... The Amazing Spider-Man. |
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Ain't that Carmine Infantino's?
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Paulo Pereira
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JB wrote:
| Once is parody, twice is infringement.And Marvel was still very, very, very small back then! |
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Interesting. I'd thought that Marvel had become a significant presence by the late 60s.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude
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Francesco, no, it is indeed Andru/Esposito's work.
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Brad Brickley
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All this poking "fun" at Spider-Man seems to be just some weak attempt by the "Old Fogies" at National trying to be "hip" like the Merry Marvel Bullpen. You can't be hip by acting hip, hip is just hip. This is like the stare off between Coke and Pepsi and Coke blinked.
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Jason Czeskleba
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The Chameleon Boy panel was written by Nelson Bridwell, who wasn't old, but definitely had "fogey" tendencies, being the very first anal-retentive fan-turned-pro ever. I think the Batman panel was written by Bob Haney, right? It sounds like his work. He definitely came across like "Grandpa wearing a Beatle wig" every time he tried to be hip (and I say that as a Haney fan in general). From what I've read, the editors at DC were truly bemused by Marvel's success. I remember reading an interview with somebody (I can't remember who, Shooter maybe) who said that the DC editors could not understand how Marvel could be so popular when their art was so inferior. They actually concluded that maybe fans liked the art because it was no good, and therefore less intimidating to readers who aspired to be artists themselves.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 22 August 2009 at 9:34pm
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