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Mike Farley Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 August 2009 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | 1
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Current Rogue only has white bangs. Are there three of her?

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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 August 2009 at 11:13pm | IP Logged | 2
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Mike N. wrote:
Must be two different characters, the old Rogue has white streaks on
the side of her hair, while young Rogue has a streak down the middle. ;) |
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Almost like two different species of skunk or something.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 13 August 2009 at 11:24pm
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 9:43am | IP Logged | 3
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Martin Redmond wrote:
...Dazzler's series is not canon... |
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They certainly were! Marvel didn't try to become DC until the late 1990's. Back then, most every story was considered official continuity. Details may have been ignored, but the stories did happen. I'm curious, where do you get your information that the "Dazzler" stories are not canon? Can you source it for us?
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... Rogue showed up in issues of Ms Marvel that weren't published... |
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...And...? Those are unpublished stories, so they aren't canon, I'd agree. The "Dazzler" comics were published.
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...Anyway, keep up the good work exposing continuity mistakes from over 29-25 years ago guys. We'll get justice yet... |
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There's no mistake. Claremont had it in his mind that Rogue was 16-years-old. For whatever reason, Rogue was given a white strip in her then-short hair. This made her appear older than Claremont intended. I always figured she was meant to have an early 1980s kind of psuedo-punk hair style, and that's why it looked like it did. Whatever the case, Claremont created her and he meant her to be a teenager in the begining. Nothing actually written in the comics contradict this, either.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 9:49am | IP Logged | 4
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Paulo Pereira wrote:
(About Rogue's appearnces in "Dazzler" being considered canon) ...It's considered as such in X-MEN, at least as regards Rogue and Dazzler... |
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Correct!
I never heard anyone else try to dismiss the "Dazzler" appearances as being canon, at least not anyone from Marvel during the 1980's and 1990's. Comparing published issues of "Dazzler" to unpublished issues of "Ms. Marvel" doesn't prove anything. I don't even get how somebody would think it would. Is it because they are both female characters? -- Because Rogue was in some unpublished story with another character? Er, yeah...
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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:17am | IP Logged | 5
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QUOTE:
They certainly were! Marvel didn't try to become DC until the late 1990's. Back then, most every story was considered official continuity. Details may have been ignored, but the stories did happen. I'm curious, where do you get your information that the "Dazzler" stories are not canon? Can you source it for us? |
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lalala! I'm not listeninnng!
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Here she is in X-Men 244 by Silvestri and Green. Clearly she's gotten anorexic, especially when you compare this to the Springer/Colletta above |
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That was back when they were in their Australian compound. Storm didn't allow the girls to feed themselves much so she could keep them more easily indoctrinated to her warped homosuperior philosophies. Mystique was deranged, but she was by far a better mother.
Edited by Martin Redmond on 14 August 2009 at 11:23am
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 6
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QUOTE:
Matt H: Can you source it for us?
Martin R: lalala! I'm not listeninnng! |
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In other words, no.
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William Lukash Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 May 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1404
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 7
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Canon only existed from about 1975 to Heroes Reborn (or maybe before that). Stories published at any other time may or may not have be real. :)
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Steven Myers Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:35am | IP Logged | 8
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Rogue dyes the white stripe in her hair. When she became an X-Man, she changed the pattern to one stripe instead of two. This was explained in a letters page..probably one of those things Chris assumed but didn't ever get around to mentioning in the comic.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:37am | IP Logged | 9
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Steven M. wrote:
Rogue dyes the white stripe in her hair. When she became an X-Man, she
changed the pattern to one stripe instead of two. |
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Hmmm...that's one small point where the movie might actually be an improvement.
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 10
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for what it's worth, those "unpublished" issues of Ms. Marvel were eventually published in those quarterly MARVEL SUPER-HERO SPECIALS used to clear out the inventory files. IIRC, Some of is was clearly using old Cockrum art, but changed over to new pencils - no telling how much tweaking was done to the scripts.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 12:21pm | IP Logged | 11
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I posted this link in the "New Artwork" thread, but since it has a Byrne Rogue drawing I'd thought I'd post it here, too:
http://1407graymalkin.com/Images/ohmude11coverlg.jpg
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Jeff Barlow Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 12:21pm | IP Logged | 12
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Dying white stripes in your hair might have been "punkish"
in 1980, but now it would seem ridiculous.
I agree, the movie explanation is much better.
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