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John Byrne
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JB, do you rotate the page when you draw characters upside down?
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Yes!
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Mike O'Brien
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Which characters did I draw in commission pieces that I had literally never drawn before -- at least, that you would have seen published. (I don't expect you to be clairvoyant!) Obviously there are the likes of Mr. Mind, Robot Archie, the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents -- but who else?
Well! This is a challenge...!
I scrolled through the gallery and made a list - that I didn't double check against published work - and came up with the following names - I expect there are a few OHOTMU errors in my list - JB did A - S on that, so that covers a LOT of Marvel - but I seem to recall that chacaracters were added in not drawn by him, so there are some that I'm going to err on the side of caution. Please correct my list if these were drawn, and where, and add any I forgot.. I'm not including the Monsters - just regular comic characters:
Zatana - (drawn since, but at the time of commission?)
Harley Quinn
Adam Strange
Firebird
Abbey from Swamp Thing (ST himself was on a Who's Who cover)
Shamrock
Diamondback
Vampirella
Deja Thoris
Titanna
Much of the JSA from Nathan's giant commission including:
Starman
Hourman
Wildcat
Mr Terriffic
Dr Midnight
Sandman
Executioner
Thundra
Apocalypse (he drew the head, but not the whole body - does this count?)
Rogue (ditto, I think - though she's on the OHOTMU cover. Seems like a big character to have never been drawn by JB - what am I missing?)
Adult Robin (I recall a headshot in either... a fanzine or ... the Art of Byrne or Foucs on.. but... not the whole body, right?)
ShadowFlame
Now - he drew Death once before, but for a fan at the MOC in front of a small group that included me and Adam Hughes - it wasn't for publication - so not sure that one really counts.
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John Byrne
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Executioner
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He's one I thought myself I'd drawn for the first time in a commission piece, but was reminded I'd shown him standing in the background in an issue of AVENGERS WEST COAST.
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Mike O'Brien
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Touche!
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Brian Miller
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Rogue (ditto, I think - though she's on the OHOTMU cover. Seems like a big character to have never been drawn by JB - what am I missing?)
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She was on the cover to SECRET WARS II #1.
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Harley Quinn
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Was she not in that BATMAN ADVENTURES ANNUAL JB did a story for with Dini writing?
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Here is why I love your artwork Mr Byrne, no detail too small, the billboard/sign on the left that you can see the"O and E" whoever put it up, messed up a little, which makes it an authentic real life picture to me.
You rock not only the big stuff, you slam dunk the often overlooked little stuff.
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John Byrne
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Here is why I love your artwork Mr Byrne, no detail too small, the billboard/sign on the left that you can see the"O and E" whoever put it up, messed up a little, which makes it an authentic real life picture to me.•• My first real job was as a designer for an outdoor advertising company. My drawings were printed out onto long, narrow strips of paper and pasted up on the various boards around town. Didn't take me long to get used to -- resigned to -- seeing elements not quite matched up at the seams. So here, I "drew from life"!
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Harley Quinn***************** Was she not in that BATMAN ADVENTURES ANNUAL JB did a story for with Dini writing? •• Technically, yes. But out of costume.
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Dave Braun
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JB, do you rotate the page when you draw characters upside down?
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Yes!
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Phew! I am glad to hear that. It would be scary if you could do that without
rotating the page . But for some reason it also wouldn't surprise me if you
could.
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John Byrne
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Asking that question touches on something from my early days. When I was a kid, my father freelanced as an architect, in addition to his day job at City Hall. He designed apartment buildings, mostly, and when he drew the plans he would, as draftsmen do, tape down the corners of the large sheets of tracing paper he used. From him I picked up this habit of taping down the corners of the pages I was working on, which means I did, indeed, learn to draw a lot of stuff upside down -- until it dawned on me that my Dad's reason for taping down his pages was that he was using a T-Square and several set squares, all of which had to be able to hit the same parallel lines every time.I did not have that problem, and it was with a great sigh of relief -- long before I turned pro -- that I stopped taping down my pages.
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As long as the backgrounds are being discussed, this is where I should probably mention, for those of you who like to keep track of such things, that the backgrounds on this were done without any pencil layouts, just the usual perspective grid.
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John, I've heard you talking the "perspective grid" many times. I'm sorry if this is a silly question but what is it exactly ? Is it a technique adaptation of the way most artists handle perspective ? Could you post an example of that grid?
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