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William Lukash Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 May 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1405
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | 1
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lol...
NOCHA-KLOP!!
For I minute I thought it was backwards..Polkah-Con? That sounds like a horrible thing to attend. Can polka be spelled with and h at the end?
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Arc Carlton Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: Peru Posts: 3493
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | 2
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It's fun to see so many characters get punched in the face...
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 June 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 6113
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Posted: 02 July 2009 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | 3
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May I ask you artists/board members, haven't you been punched and become so mad that you toss yourself even further just to show what an asshole the guy who punched you is? You don't pick up your calculator to toss yourself in the right direction. I think the Spider-Man art displays that feeling. Many kids feel that way and it's represented in comic books.
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Erik Larsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 2:27am | IP Logged | 4
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Uhhhhh.....no.
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 2:40am | IP Logged | 5
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Uhhhhh.....no.
It's a phenomenon we call Football (soccer) Filming since it's very frequently happening on the soccer field to gain scores. In this movie, if you can watch it, the player jumps over the victim, who is unhurt, but still he "receives" som blows out of nowhere.
http://www.fotbollsfilmer.se/D%E5lig%20filmning.asp
(Added: In many cases, a real minor or major punch actually occurs, or at least some aggression is precieved, which is exaggerated by the victim out of proportion.)
Edited by Lars Johansson on 03 July 2009 at 2:45am
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 2:50am | IP Logged | 6
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Lars, "filming" wouldn't explain people falling in the wrong direction. "Filming" would explain exaggeration of the impact of a punch, but that's already covered under "dynamic movement" which is standard in comics and which is not an issue.
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 4:25am | IP Logged | 7
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Lars, "filming" wouldn't explain people falling in the wrong direction.
Filming is always in the wrong direction, displaying a g-force below or above 9.8 or some other anomaly, since not enough calculations have been done. Filming is inetended to display the impact. It's Sal Buscema in the real world.
Edited by Lars Johansson on 03 July 2009 at 4:25am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 4:35am | IP Logged | 8
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"Filming" underscores why a clear direction of movement is so important in comicbook images. Unlike film, we don't have actual movement at our disposal. A movie director can show an action, be it a punch or a twirl on the dance floor, from start to finish, and the eyes of his audience will be carried along with the actual movement.In still images, we must find ways to make the eyes "follow along" with something that isn't actually happening. This is one of the reasons John Buscema, in HOW TO DRAW COMICS THE MARVEL WAY, emphasizes the importance of choosing as your "moment" to draw the most extreme extension of any action. One of the reason's Gil Kane's images work so well, even when he is portraying the actual action inaccurately, is that he was a master of this maximum extension technique.
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 5:03am | IP Logged | 9
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JB, Lars and I are discussing "filming" as a soccer term, where you fake an injury or exaggerate an injury in order to get a penalty shot. A guy from the other team goes in close and dribbles the ball away from you, whereupon you fall to the side, arms flailing, grab your leg and scream like a little girl that just stepped on a landmine. "Filming" is in deference to the Oscar worthy acting of the guy opn the ground.
Soccer. The sport of men. ;-)
Edited by Knut Robert Knutsen on 03 July 2009 at 5:04am
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Thanos Kollias Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 5:13am | IP Logged | 10
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I don't think "filming" (I didn't know it was called that way, we refer to it as "theatre" over here) is applicable, though. In the comic-book panels discussed, the person receiving the blow IS receiving the blow. He isn't faking it, he gets hit. The artists just draw things differently than what would occur in reality.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 5:58am | IP Logged | 11
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...you fall to the side, arms flailing, grab your leg and scream like a little girl that just stepped on a landmine...
****
Ha! Perfect description.
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 July 2009 at 5:59am | IP Logged | 12
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In the comic-book panels discussed, the person receiving the blow IS receiving the blow. He isn't faking it, he gets hit. The artists just draw things differently than what would occur in reality.
Every kid I beleive can feel punched even though the parents say everything is fine. Speaking for myself, a Spider-man comic lets the inner pain manifest itself.
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