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Stephen Robinson
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Except for that X-Men image, I like all the Quietly stuff posted.
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SER: I certainly respect personal taste. However, whenever I see Quitely's work, I see work that doesn't seem suited for what comic books are. I mean, Elvis is great but he wasn't a good jazz musician.
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Wayde Murray
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Huh. Bizarro is crosseyed. Never noticed that before.
I've said on occassion that a beter method to making a Batman mask for the movies is through the use of make-up rather than through wardrobe: build up the cowl through appliances, rather than using a bulky helmet that makes his head too big for his shoulder width and prevents normal head movement. Something similar should be possible with costuming, where full-body costumes are built up out of appliances, correcting and tweaking body parts as needed to subtly alter the actor's physical dimensions into a more heroic ideal. Widen the shoulders, deepen the chest, and yes, thicken the neck. Not by too much, just by enough that the costumed persona is slightly more heroically proportioned than the civilian identity. No seams, no stitches, and no need for overly developed performers to inhabit the roles. A Batman who is fractionally bigger than Bruce Wayne (while still looking like he wears a skin-tight costume) might make quite a difference when viewed on-screen.
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Trevor Giberson
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QUOTE:
| SER: I certainly respect personal taste. However, whenever I see
Quitely's work, I see work that doesn't seem suited for what comic
books are. I mean, Elvis is great but he wasn't a good jazz musician. |
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He still played music, though. I think there's room in comics for widely differing approaches. All Star Superman is my favorite Superman comics since at least the Bates/Swan run.
I dunno. A lot of people hated Franks Thorne and Robbins too, but I loved those guys.
(Edit to add: I don't think Elvis was all that great.)
Edited by Trevor Giberson on 30 June 2009 at 8:53am
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John Byrne
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I believe Superman should look like a guy who you wouldn't want to mess
with even if he didn't have powers.
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John Byrne
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Except for that X-Men image, I like all the Quietly stuff posted.
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There's very little not to like, in terms of the pure artistry of it. It's a matter of "casting", tho. Quitely is ill suited to superheroics. This is like getting Mike Mignola to do Winnie the Pooh.*
* Yes, yes. A chorus of "I'd like to see that!" Taken as read. Move on.
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John Mietus
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Stephen Robinson wrote:
However, whenever I see Quitely's work, I see
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What super hero comic books are. Not all comic books have to be about
super heroes. I could see Quitely on a horror title or maybe even a western
working quite well.
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Steve De Young
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Quitely is ill suited to superheroics.
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The Quitely work that actually really impressed me was We3. His humans may look weird, but damn if he can't draw animals:
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Trevor Giberson
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I think he worked quite well on All Star Superman - next to perhaps Busiek/Nord on Conan, this was my favorite comic in years.
I'd like to see him tackle The Fourth World.
Edited by Trevor Giberson on 30 June 2009 at 9:11am
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Steve De Young
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Let me just add, if you haven't read We3, you should. Its a real departure for Morrison and Quitely. Its very Richard Adams. Its about three lab animals who are part of cybernetics experiments (they basically get turned into cybernetic weapons) to test systems that the military ultimately wants to use for human soldiers. A side-effect, however, is that they become self-aware and able to speak.
If you can get through this book without at least misting up a little, you are truly a hard man.
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John Byrne
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…they become self-aware…
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Become self-aware?
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Darren Taylor
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People seem to feel animals are incapable of feelings or having a personality. As a dog owner, dog's display as many emotions as I do and I'm hardly Vulcan!
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Steve De Young
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Become self-aware?
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In the sense that a dog, a cat, and a rabbit become sentient beings capable of contemplating and reflecting on their own existence.
Edited to add: As dad to a new puppy, I'm fully aware of dog personality and emotions. But as far as I can tell, my little Shelby doesn't contemplate the meaning of her own existence and her potential non-existence (i.e. death).
Edited again to add adorable picture of said puppy, since I gave myself an excuse (sorry for thread drift):
Edited by Steve De Young on 30 June 2009 at 9:41am
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