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Kevin Hagerman
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I think Quitely (Quietly?) is talented, but his style isn't suited for superheroes.
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Frank Quitely is a pseudonymous pun on "quite frankly".
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Darren Taylor
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Of the two Covers, shown as comparisons at the top of this thread. The first one demonstrates the lack of Power and Dynaminism in some Superhero comics these days.
It's almost as if some people are embarassed to draw something a child might consider awesome, for fear of an adult scoffing!
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John Byrne
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"Almost"? I fear there is no "almost" about it, Darren.
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Darren Taylor
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| Posted: 27 June 2009 at 9:53am | IP Logged | 4
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Well, it's sad.
Without that sort of imaginaion we don't get Kirby, or any one of a hundred greats that lead us down to today.
If Superhero comics were meant to be real, they would have -very- little Hero's and probbly not be the sort of thing discerning adults would let kids read...wait, like a lot of comics are these days!
Where's the wonder?
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Jesus Garcia
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I remember, during one of the art challenges (Dr. Doom blasting down at
Captain America and The Thing) trying to set up the scene using Poser.
I figured out the relative characters heights and respective distances,
placed Doom at a height above Ben and Cap, etc, etc, etc.
I even managed to produce their postures as shown in John's drawing.
When I stated to use the Poser point of view tools to create the same
viewpoint with Poser as John had drawn, I failed completely to reproduce
the dramatic sense of the drawing.
Which tells be that one needs to know when to play by the rules and when
to cheat. Also tells me I don't know how to cheat for best effect.
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Chad Carter
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Frank Quietly is not a good dynamic artist, I don't care what anybody says. I keep being pointed toward ALL-STAR SUPERMAN as if I'm missing a point. I don't see anything but a guy with a prognathous jawline.
Folks want to wank over Quietly, and I wonder again what their background knowledge is, of why the word "dynamism" is important to superhero comics.
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Stephen Robinson
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The Quitely image of Batman presents the same issue I had with the recent Batman films. I don't see BATMAN but a guy in a Batman costume.
It's interesting that 30 years earlier (yikes!), Christopher Reeve never looked like a guy in a Superman costume. He was SUPERMAN.
And maybe it's just childhood nostalgia, but darn it, if Adam West didn't look like BATMAN, as well -- maybe more the one from a different era than Adams but Batman nonetheless.
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John Peter Britton
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I had all those Neal Adams comics when they first came out you just can't beat the mans talent one of the best!
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Matt Hawes
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Keith Thomas wrote:
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I think that's supposed to be the shadows from the buildings in the foreground, cast upwards onto the figure of Batman (Dick Grayson).
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Robert Cosgrove
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The page JB posted has long been among my favorites, and I think his
comments are spot on. A lot of credit goes to Denny O'Neil for the script,
but it's hard to imagine anyone else carrying it off quite so well as Adams.
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Robert Cosgrove
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I saw the last Batman movie, most of it, anyway, when I was stuck in a hotel
room with nothing to do one evening while attending a conference in
Nashville a few weeks ago. I remember thinking that the various armored
and padded bat suits are a corruption of the idea of Batman. Batman
doesn't need such suits.
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Keith Thomas
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The Quitely image of Batman presents the same issue I
had with the recent Batman films. I don't see BATMAN but a
guy in a Batman costume.
Recent? That was my whole problem with Keaton.
I think that's supposed to be the shadows from the
buildings in the foreground, cast upwards onto the figure
of Batman (Dick Grayson).
Then it's really odd.
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